Thread: No hunting under level 3

So is Duck shooting on ot off . I will have to drive 3.5 Hours. My Maimai is about 2 kms from anyone else and on a private farm ????

Originally Posted by Duckshooter

So is Duck shooting on ot off . I will have to drive 3.5 Hours. My Maimai is about 2 kms from anyone else and on a private farm ????

My maimai is 100m from my house.

Cant shoot ducks in it though until the shops open. No ammo.

Originally Posted by Cigar

Someone just asked the question at the press conference, Robertson said hunting isn't banned and is under consideration for being allowed under level 3.

ARSEHOLES

Hopefully Monday’s announcement will clear things up as far as hunting goes,clear as mud right now..

The problem for us is that all risk matrices that are used to assess hunting are likely to attach a “moderate” or “medium” risk to the activity, because the highest “consequence” outcome is at the worst level - “fatality” - even when the “likelihood” is assessed at its lowest level, i.e. “very unlikely”.

So when government looks for low risk activities, hunting probably doesn’t fall into this category when a standard risk assessment process is applied to outdoor activities.

This is just the reality - risk is assessed like this (in simplistic terms) across almost all industrial, commercial and governmental sectors.

As a general rule the type of tools used in risk assessments are pretty reasonable, the fact is we just don’t like the outcome. But the amount of apparent contradiction on display yesterday strongly suggests that our representatives should push very hard for a rethink, because it does not take any rocket science to look at the relative consequences (statistically) of hunting vs. swimming, tramping, mountain biking and so on. Top of mind for me is the number of drowning and tramping accidents annually, versus hunting.

I would suggest from the wording of Robertson’s response in the press conference that someone half sensible behind the scenes has said hey hang on a minute, this is going to make us look really stupid. Unfortunately that doesn’t necessarily mean that they won’t go ahead and ban it anyway. However I am cautiously optimistic that there will be some relaxation of the ban, and I say that in hope but also as a reflection of what Robertson said, he simply wouldn’t have responded like that if it wasn’t for the fact that someone somewhere was asking serious questions of the decision-making. If they truly didn’t give a fuck they would’ve just ban it anyway and say so. Plus we will have the problem of left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing... Nash’s comments yesterday were entirely disingenuous simply because he linked hunting activity directly to needing to drive somewhere, which for a lot of us is not the case at all.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12325598

well guys, looks like they may be reconsidering it accoring to the press conference, still keep pressure on your MP

at least theyre considering -thats a start.Was watching press conference today -clear impression robertson was somewhat taken aback by suggestion of hunting being banned outright under level 3.as much as I detest the guy and what he stands for ,in this case I ll admit he was gracious enough to explain rather than typical fudge it or brush it aside thank you (just this once.)

Originally Posted by Flyblown

The problem for us is that all risk matrices that are used to assess hunting are likely to attach a “moderate” or “medium” risk to the activity, because the highest “consequence” outcome is at the worst level - “fatality” - even when the “likelihood” is assessed at its lowest level, i.e. “very unlikely”.

So when government looks for low risk activities, hunting probably doesn’t fall into this category when a standard risk assessment process is applied to outdoor activities.

The government can't use risk analysis to get themselves off the hook on this one. Looking at the ACC data posted on the other thread, there are no more fatalities in hunting in than other sports and the cost per case isn't higher either. While the latter doesn't take in to account healthcare costs from hunting accidents, I imagine it would be a pretty good indicator. Admittedly, there is no incidence rate for hunting, but the number of overall claims is relatively small.

Originally Posted by bigbear

Iam sure he said if you live on a farm you can hunt. Also if you have a duck pond on your property you can duck shoot

Bloody oath! Who's going to stop me!

In a sensible world you would allow hunting to happen provided you were again keeping to your bubble group and maintaining safe social distancing. 45min drive from home and day trips only to areas you know and hunt regularly.

This will also allow those that need to hut to go and do so to fill the freezer. It'll also allow those that can hunt to go and do so, and us that cannot meet these will need to wait a couple more weeks. This will also mean that when we go into level 2 not every man and his dog are racing for the hills, which could have a higher risk of 'fatality' / hunting accidents. The guys that already have had a chance in the hills have safety been up there.

Originally Posted by Nugget connaisseur

I was speaking with doc. They are working to see if they will allow dogs to walk with the same kiwi training. The problem is average muppet see other people out with their dogs and think all dogs are okay. Then go take theirs

My dog has a hunting permit, not sure how it works if you aren't actually hunting! Probably a lot of things higher on the priority list for the Police, rangers etc if we do move to level 3 than prosecuting a dog...

Mr Seymour has been onto it and that ruling is going to change, 'apparently' was put on by mistake. Insert Tui ad here

Covid 19 website has reversed the banning of hunting. Now states guidelines are being developed. NZDA is suppose to be helping with the guidelines.

From Covid site

FAQs
How far can I drive to do a recreation activity?

You should drive as short a distance as you can, and still do the activity. You must stay local.

Boating, yachting and any team sports or training are not allowed. We are developing guidance for hunting.