Thread: Not again!

Originally Posted by Tommy

Nail on the head

I'm dead fricken scared of ever being on the receiving or the sending end of the equation.

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Originally Posted by Feral

I'm dead fricken scared of ever being on the receiving or the sending end of the equation.

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Me too bro, and that's a healthy way to be I think.

Another need less shooting death .Do any of you think that with the huge increase in people hunting in new Zealand has any thing to do with all the hunting shows now on tv and you tube. most of them make it look real easy as do a lot of the magazines .They don't show you all the empty handed hunts an how hard hunting can truly be. People watch and read this stuff head out into the bush thinking that every trip ends in success .A lot of peer pressure big money outlays. So have some people developed the mind set that every time they go out they are going to get a animal or should it be iam going hunting cool hopefully I might get some thing and wait iam not at home or working how good is this and if I get a animal what a bonus

This is a tragedy, no other way of looking at it.
Roll on May when it's safe to go back in the hills.....

Tragic in the extreme. There is no excuse for this. It is completely avoidable and should just not happen. Yet here again it has.

So, open question, when will the voice of NZ gun ownership step up and demand change, proposing solutions and taking the lead on responsible and trained hunting with firearms. The alternative, in a void of leadership, is to succumb to over regulation or acceptance of the status quo.

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Originally Posted by Feral

So, open question, when will the voice of NZ gun ownership step up and demand change, proposing solutions and taking the lead on responsible and trained hunting with firearms. The alternative, in a void of leadership, is to succumb to over regulation or acceptance of the status quo.

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You raise a good point Feral. I would think that this would be best taken up by the likes of NZDA and like minded Gun clubs.
To succumb to over regulation or acceptance of the status quo in my view is the easy way out. While this is situation is tragic, we need to take some ownership and try to offer some sencable solutions.

Another tragic waste of a young life.
Sincere condolences to family and friends involved.

The only thing more predictable than a shooting during the roar is a thread like this and the posts it contains.

Originally Posted by sneeze

The only thing more predictable than a shooting during the roar is a thread like this and the posts it contains.

Yep. Every year, just like clockwork....and still nothing changes

Originally Posted by Pengy

Yep. Every year, just like clockwork....and still nothing changes

Correct and taking the emotion out of it the logical question is why?

Used to get the buck fever when I was young and keen. Now having been hunting for 20+ years I'm a lot more selective. If I don't get one it doesn't worry me. Im happy to see and observe the animals and enjoy the fact that I have managed to get amongst them, and some time on the hill.
In the bush I always consider any initial encounter to be human until I can positively identify it as other wise.
One scenario that puts the wind up me is a hunter carrying out an animal and a hunter looking down on to a carried animal thinking its a shooter.
I recal a roar hunt I went on in the tablelands above the Cobb in Kahurangi. Sat on a hill one late arvo with my binos glassing two creeks and some flat area and seen 5 other hunters over an hour! Went back to my camp packed up and walked out in my Hivis. Massive disappointment but thought better to pull pin and stay safe.

Maybe there should be a web site where hunters register intentions on hunt areas.
It would give people an idea of the numbers of people using the area. Amount of risk involved.
I can see there would be issues, like people not keen to give up spots, or changing the intentions due to factors like wind direction weather and such like. Poachers probably not keen.

Originally Posted by deadidick

Maybe there should be a web site where hunters register intentions on hunt areas.
It would give people an idea of the numbers of people using the area. Amount of risk involved.
I can see there would be issues, like people not keen to give up spots, or changing the intentions due to factors like wind direction weather and such like. Poachers probably not keen.

I've been thinking of something similar where hunters place an intentions card with their details, party numbers, area on a printer 1:50k or sketch. Place it at tje entry point or stream junction, Pick it up on the way out etc.

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Originally Posted by deadidick

Maybe there should be a web site where hunters register intentions on hunt areas.
It would give people an idea of the numbers of people using the area. Amount of risk involved.
I can see there would be issues, like people not keen to give up spots, or changing the intentions due to factors like wind direction weather and such like. Poachers probably not keen.

I think you would be pissing into the wind expecting a hunter to stick to a set area, at this time of the year when the " out there doing it" brigade arrive many have no respect or don't give a toss if someone is already parked or camped at a track end, they just carry on with their intensions without any thought or consideration to other hunters.