Thread: People very sick after eating wild pig

Originally Posted by Tahr

Doctors believe three people left gravely ill after eating wild boar are suffering from botulism, a Waikato Hospital spokeswoman says.

"While we don't know the exact cause and source of this illness, we now believe it is botulism. The three patients are responding to botulism anti-toxin and are recovering in hospital.

"We have sent samples off to a specialist centre in Queensland for testing but it may take several weeks before we get the results. We have no evidence to believe there is any public health issue."

Theres a silver lining there. At least they should come out wrinkle free

No. Not Botox @kiwijames
Wait.
I have just been schooled in what Botox actually is....

Close, but I'm just not quite sure that botoxism is the same as botulism, but then again, ya knew that.

Originally Posted by Shearer

No. Not Botox @kiwijames
Wait.
I have just been schooled in what Botox actually is....

botulism toxin

The shit people do

isnt botulism from badly cured meat ?

Originally Posted by kiwijames

Theres a silver lining there. At least they should come out wrinkle free

Only on the inside

I have seen a few ducks with it. fracking nasty.

Seen lakes full of ducks with it in Aussie. All unable to hold their head up drowning in the pond

Originally Posted by jakewire

Close, but I'm just not quite sure that botoxism is the same as botulism, but then again, ya knew that.

botox is a minor surgical procedure involving the localised injection of minute doses of the botulism toxin around mouth and eyes to temporarily paralyse minute facial mucles.repeats usually required every 3/12
hence the apparent smoothing out of wrinkles etc albeit temporarily.
Note this is a controlled dose of the toxin-should you of course have a gutsful of crook shellfish_mussels are numero uno, that is enough toxin on board to hibernate a very large PMT stricken grizzly bear in perpetuity
for you my human friend usually an appointment on the undertakers embalming table where the words "now stay still this wont hurt too much" are entirely superfluous as you are well in transit to the other side! judging by a brief eyeball mk1 scan of the latest MSM Stuff articles it would appearmy previous sentiments could be viable-it may be a variation of nast bastardus botuli ,but cuzzies over the water rquired to confirm kiwi suspicions.
regardless me thinks tis a one off and a lot of the present hysteria is overeacting and unwarranted.

I didnt know there was any botulism antitoxin?
A while back i was bottling some Kahawai and was shit scared of poisoning my family so did extensive googling on the subject.
Everything I came up with on botulism was that there is pretty much no cure?

Originally Posted by Rushy

According to the news tonight they are strongly suspecting botulism. Turns out it may not have even been the pork.

Very possibly leftover reheated rice would be my pick

Originally Posted by Rushy

According to the news tonight they are strongly suspecting botulism. Turns out it may not have even been the pork.

No suprises there

Originally Posted by Rushy

According to the news tonight they are strongly suspecting botulism. Turns out it may not have even been the pork.

Makes sense. If it was the pork it cannot be botulism. Botulinum toxin does not work that fast. Not sure what ingesting megadoses of it would do though, perhaps faster acting??? Don't know. Still, on the face of it, botulism does not fit the most obvious evidence and it's striking how the victims all succumbed straight after that pork meal (if it was from an earlier ingested substance, you might expect a bit more "spread" in the timing of their respective collapses).

One vet has a very striking contribution regarding the cause, which would fit with the pig meat. Pig hunters with dogs beware:

"Vet Jenni Peterson said dogs suffer from an illness commonly known as "Go Slow" when they eat wild pork.
Ms Peterson said within minutes they collapse and get the shakes.
She said it was worrisome very little was known about the toxin, and there had been no investigation into whether humans can also suffer."

From: https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/natio...ting-wild-pork

Something smells seriously fishy, makes you wonder if the conspiracy theories might be true:

Health authorities were yet to confirm botulism was responsible for their illness, but it's the only thing they're testing for and family members are responding to antitoxins for botulism.

Samples had been sent to a lab in Queensland, Australia, but there was no timeframe on when they were due back, Varghese said.

"At this stage there are no test results showing that it is botulism, so what do they do when you can't pinpoint what it is and what is happening?

How long do these tests take? Wouldn't they be urgent given the families critical health? Why are they only testing for botulism?

They were refused ACC too I read
The older woman still ill

I was just talking to a mate about this issue. The media has moved on which makes everyone happy, except those who hunt and eat our quarry. This matter needs to be addressed properly in order that appropriate action can be taken and safeguards put in place.
As everyone has acknowledged this doesn't feel right in terms of speed of effect and the symptoms if we are to believe the media. It may have nothing at all to do with hunting for all we know and these poor folk have corned into contact with another illicit subsrance and the pig taking the blame.