Thread: Public Land Roar Predictions?

In my experience the stags will roar when the hinds are in season, a good cold spell of weather can make them more vocal and aggressive, but basically its all down to hind health and their scent to get on with business.

Originally Posted by Rees

stags are immmature for 1 year until first spikes, then are deemed Mature... ohh ok.

well its nice to see so many mature deer being shot in nz past few years, loven the velvet matures too

certainly looks young an immature

nah bro...not what was said..... and yip velveties get HAMMERED over here,it becomes a race to get in first,just incase someone else beats you to it..the wait till the roar thing seems to be going out of fashion.... its a crying shame reallly .... sad in some ways but entirely legal over here.
to each thier own at end of day.

Originally Posted by Stocky

Interesting use of mature considering usually mature in hunting terms is usually used interchangeably with old. I wouldn't describe a teen with balls dropped mature never mind 95% of 30 year old. But no argument he's sexually mature or an adult.

Mature to me means that the animal is fully grown. I would class the stag as 'a young stag' three or four years old. A mature stag is six or even seven years plus. A spiker is not a stag, it is a spiker till now and then it is a rising 2yr stag. I am always astounded how the current crop of fawns are fawns when they are running around but become 'yearlings' instantly when they are shot

I personally think deer numbers in certain areas are out of control. Game management in these areas is not needed at present. Shoot everything including fawns. If we don’t the next hot topic to piss and moan about will be the indiscriminate use of 1080

Originally Posted by Nathan F

I personally think deer numbers in certain areas are out of control. Game management in these areas is not needed at present. Shoot everything including fawns. If we don’t the next hot topic to piss and moan about will be the indiscriminate use of 1080

I couldn't agree more Nathan the Ruahines are a example of this with deer numbers over the last few years getting out of hand.

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Was on the west of Arthurs Pass over the weekend and got a stag grunting and moaning. Not fully roaring yet but he came in to my roars and got bloody close!! It was a shame I couldnt see more than 10m in the thick shit. He ended up giving me the run around and I stopped chasing after he went in to the monkey scrub. He didnt shut up though. This was at 2:30 pm too. Give them a week and they will be going hard.

Originally Posted by BRADS

I couldn't agree more Nathan the Ruahines are a example of this with deer numbers over the last few years getting out of hand.

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Yes - just talking to a farmer in Levin this morning
He said bloody Deer are running out of nearly every bush gully on the farm (bush pockets - like less than 1 acre on average)
His father (an ex meat hunter too) has not been gone 2 years and the numbers have built up obviously mainly from transient migration in from the Tararua

So what is your prediction @BRADS
Obviously even with the modern addition of Thermal and Nightvision - recreational hunting is not keeping a lid on it

Originally Posted by Sarvo

Yes - just talking to a farmer in Levin this morning
He said bloody Deer are running out of nearly every bush gully on the farm (bush pockets - like less than 1 acre on average)
His father (an ex meat hunter too) has not been gone 2 years and the numbers have built up obviously mainly from transient migration in from the Tararua

So what is your prediction @BRADS
Obviously even with the modern addition of Thermal and Nightvision - recreational hunting is not keeping a lid on it

Thermal and night vision are not allowed to be used on public land.

Just come out of the bush after 5 days, Southland stags roaring hard from deer o’clock till dawn, nothing during the day. Bigger boys getting pretty worked up past couple of nights. Last light they we coming in hard to a roar, ready to sort out the intruder.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Thermal and night vision are not allowed to be used on public land.

Is that Hand Held too ?
I know scopes are not

Originally Posted by Sarvo

Is that Hand Held too ?
I know scopes are not

The permit doesn't make any distinction between the two so I would say both.

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Pretty quiet in pureora north. Provoked a young stag in the pines then missed him in thick cover as the wind swirled around behind me.

Talked to a bowhunters who shot one of 4 he had going

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

The permit doesn't make any distinction between the two so I would say both.

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The Hand Held Thermal be a good safety add -n in Public land but

Originally Posted by Sarvo

The Hand Held Thermal be a good safety add -n in Public land but

Yep.

Originally Posted by Sarvo

Yes - just talking to a farmer in Levin this morning
He said bloody Deer are running out of nearly every bush gully on the farm (bush pockets - like less than 1 acre on average)
His father (an ex meat hunter too) has not been gone 2 years and the numbers have built up obviously mainly from transient migration in from the Tararua

So what is your prediction @BRADS
Obviously even with the modern addition of Thermal and Nightvision - recreational hunting is not keeping a lid on it

Hey mate we just got out after 5 days and yeah the deer numbers are out of control it won't be long until gun ships come in im guessing
Get out there and shoot some deer lads

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