Thread: Shooting to waste

Originally Posted by Dama dama

I know for a fact that deer culled near chch recently had meat recovered, commercially minced and donated to a local food bank. But that type of thing is easy when close to town.

There is actually quite a cost to doing this 1st u haf to have a meat inspector standing by the chiller trailer inspecting then they haf to go through an approved proccesser b4 it can b donated a lot of extra cost if uv already brought a machine in to cull from

Such a waste of high protein meat. I am sure if you asked the needy people if they would eat the meat which hasn't been inspected etc the answer would still be YES.

Many deer are taken by commercial hunters for pet food. The hunters are licenced through MPI and GPS each kill to properties with landowner pesticide declarations and sign off.
Local pet food operation here processes between 60 and 80 deer per week. Skin, heads trotters on plucks in $2.00 kg

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Many deer are taken by commercial hunters for pet food. The hunters are licenced through MPI and GPS each kill to properties with landowner pesticide declarations and sign off.
Local pet food operation here processes between 60 and 80 deer per week. Skin, heads trotters on plucks in $2.00 kg

They’d be needing to recover 800-1000 kg/hour to make that work?

Originally Posted by Maxx

They’d be needing to recover 800-1000 kg/hour to make that work?

Yeah to be running a chopper. The guys referred to above are probably just ground based pet food hunters so a handful of deer per day is viable. The price has dropped significantly compared to even two years ago.

When the green dyed stuff has been spread around the country side it's a deterrent for recovery and processing. Carcasses' "taken" in Poison operations aren't recovered and disposed of even in town water catchments, so don't see why there will be any pressure to remove shot ones.

agree...its FAR better for S&D to be carried out with some limited recovery than green rain and wholesale wastage....but Im just enjoying aftertaste of venison backsteak from 2 yearling hinds I tipped over and recovered yesterday evening......zero waste there lads,zero waste.

It makes sense to me.

The primary focus is on pest destruction. Any time spent recovering meat is less time shooting.

And in blocks where they are hiring pest control shooters, they are more than likely using poison as well, so giving away meat is pretty risky.

Local council employ contractors who shoot to waste.
The area culled is not allowed to be hunted by us mear mortals as we might leave some guts near a stream.

So we will just shoot em from the air day and night and leave them where they lie (in the streams) and we will pay fucken dearly for it.


Largely this situation has come about because of "caretakers" who control access to public land and only allow mates in for an easy deer.....numbers get up and control is nessacary because joe blogs is not allowed to hunt it.

Its a big shit pie socialist sandwich

I heard the other day a Canterbury station put a chopper thru on S&D, 500 pigs and 268 deer, another station had 700 deer shot off it, all left to rot. Unfortunately recreational hunters aren’t going to smack that many even if they were allowed on.

Originally Posted by outdoorlad

I heard the other day a Canterbury station put a chopper thru on S&D, 500 pigs and 268 deer, another station had 700 deer shot off it, all left to rot. Unfortunately recreational hunters aren’t going to smack that many even if they were allowed on.

but thats the thing...IF they are let on,numbers dont get that big to begin with or build up that quickly again.....

said it before,the reason deer numbers got so big early on was they were in isolation,the back of big stations was a two day horse ride and wouldnt see person for months...now its hour on motorbike/quad/4wd and 5 mins in chopper...so they arent all hidden and breeding up overniight,the numbers have been slowly building up,if recreational hunters were given fair whack....those 20 deer breed 20 more so its not a huge number needed to be shot... those 700 deer make another 700 =1400 deer a LOT to be shot...its all about balance.....
let enough people in and instruct to shoot X amount and keep coming back or else access will not be granted Vs pay for chopper.....
I saw 17 deer and 12 pigs on station 2 years ago..shot one of each as allowed,havent been back yet as its a hassle to get access.

Originally Posted by outdoorlad

I heard the other day a Canterbury station put a chopper thru on S&D, 500 pigs and 268 deer, another station had 700 deer shot off it, all left to rot. Unfortunately recreational hunters aren’t going to smack that many even if they were allowed on.

Yeah culling jobs are getting more common even up here the neighbours had a chopper in and cleaned up a couple hundred.
I think before the finger gets pointed at farmers for not letting people we need to look at the forest parks the Ruahines are absolutely crawling with deer that are coming out onto the farms.
The recreational hunters simply arnt shooting enough animals.

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Im heading out to a spot in a couple of days where the farm manager told me 1000 deer were taken off a neigbouring block.

well we better all get out there and shoot some more then.....

Yep I plan to. The farm manager said he still has plenty on his block