Thread: Stewart Island deer pose threat to critically endangered southern dotterel

Originally Posted by CATLINS HUNTER

I would like to see the video or photos. Crock of shit.

https://youtu.be/sQOQdBLHrLk


YouTube has plenty of videos of birds being eaten by deer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q91dUtDYkU

Originally Posted by CATLINS HUNTER

I would like to see the video or photos. Crock of shit.

Convenient Crock of shit...given it was 2013...the law of averages says that it could happen....

Just like Possums eating Thrush fledglings with his mate, a Rat on a convenient branch ....in a photographic studio......turned into posters & pasted all around this country of ours...

Insinuating that all possums eat native eggs & fledglings all the time.....everyone.....every night....

Just all part of the plan for Pest Free 2050

Well, f@#k me....i would never have believed it.
Is it only the stags that do it?

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

https://youtu.be/sQOQdBLHrLk


YouTube has plenty of videos of birds being eaten by deer

My apologies, in my 40 odd years of hunting i have never heard of,or seen anything like that. It still cant be a common occurance surely ??

Keas kill lambs. Wekas kill all sorts of stuff. Ruru kill skinks. Kingfishers kill native fish. Falcons kill native birds as do skua and gulls. Eels eat everything. Just a few examples.
FFS.
DoC want to root Rakiura with Brodifacoum if they get have a chance.

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

I have seen red deer eat ducklings and a hedgehog eat baby turkeys that had been mowed with an orchard mower

The hedgehog doesn't surprise me - I've seen a few of them tucking into roadkill rabbits and hares, and its quite impressive the way they bite straight through the shells of snails. Apparently they have a taste for lizards too.

Deer eating young birds is news to me though, interesting.

If only 170 left it sounds serious. Would be interesting to know if the remaining population is localised around a small area. I would be more concerned about things with pointy teeth myself but would be interesting to know how much of an issue this is. There is often a ton of emotion and emotive language on both sides in these sorts of situations. Good rational, logical, practical, non emotive, measured decision makers are what are needed in situations such as this.

so if they know which areas these 170 wee birdies nest in...and only being 170 they would have to now wouldnt they??? why dont they fence them off??? sounds far too simple to me. heck fence them off with preditor fence..... too hard..... so use chook netting on the deer netting.nothing bigger than a mouse will get in then. seeing the number of cats on that island the few any deer eat ould be a way smaller number than old scrawny moggy scoffs.
are you sure Greta didnt film the origonal ???? oh 2013 she would be what??? still in diapers.

I agree. Steel standards and solar powered electric two wire fence around the various nest sites.

Just wait until DoC claims the Moose are responsible for killing Takahe so they can use green rain in fjiordland....I suspect that while deer may occasionally go for chicks for the nutrients, if you stash more nutrients away from the chicks would that draw the deer away? More likely to be rats and mustelids would be my suspicion....

Originally Posted by timattalon

Just wait until DoC claims the Moose are responsible for killing Takahe so they can use green rain in fjiordland....I suspect that while deer may occasionally go for chicks for the nutrients, if you stash more nutrients away from the chicks would that draw the deer away? More likely to be rats and mustelids would be my suspicion....

Deerstalkers Association have killed more Takahe than the moose ever will.

How tasty are dotterell chick's? Anyone tried one. If they are really really good I would have thought the best option to ensure their survival would be to commercialise them, same goes for any other endangered species, yellow eyed penguin kebab or Hectors dolphin and chips anyone

The dotterals are nesting in a fairly remote site, they are mo itored heavily and doc keep ontop of the rat and cat numbers with shooting and poisoni g. Think the issue is that the only way to control deer is by shooting vs cafefully placed bait stations that knock rat and cat numbers down before they get to the nesting areas