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    Quote Originally Posted by LOC View Post
    Sensible words
    Surely a good bugger would make the effort to let the closest farmer know that there is a cattle beast out there, even if they have seen it multiple times. They are bloody valuable lost assets
    I tried but the nearest 3 farmhouses were all quite. Will be ringing them at some point for another reason anyway. Other reason is the goats I bump into on his side of the doc boundary!
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    Some interesting reading here http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...41/index3.html, @BRADS dont think i am trying to start a fight, like normal it is one persons opinion V another and i guess its the loudest or most passionate that wins. I can see and know you are a passionate farmer and hunter, dont get me wrong i wont be snooping 20m inside your boundary looking for cows, to be fair it is very unlikly i would ever shoot one. Have seen cattle in the Haurangi before, stalked in, noticed they were cows and walked away. There used to be a herd of them in the top end of Haurangi that went wild, My wifes cousin spent some time shooting wild cattle nearby out of a chopper and selling them. So yeah who owns them i guess is one part of the picture.

    As for the mess they make, its only shit and pushing scrub down, in the end it will oipen the bush up and may even encourage better growth for the deer in those area's so some benefits??

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    These buggers have been on DOC land since March there were four that were on the track then looks like there is only two left.Photo was taken cuppla weeks ago.Name:  picture 8870.jpg
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    I've seen the boundary fences between farm and doc land it is not easy to fence.
    Mate and I climbed to the top of DOC land, fences were buggered but we couldn't get back onto Doc land from the boundary where we had got too as the bush was that tight even for a midget.Stuffed if we going down the same way we had climbed.So we walked the farm boundary untill we could get back into the reserve. Bloody sure I wouldn't want beef or lamb in my pack coming off the hills if owner saw me with a rifle.
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    Ah, this is why I like dairy farming, we have fancy stuff, like fences

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst View Post
    Ah, this is why I like dairy farming, we have fancy stuff, like fences
    Mine are buggered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst View Post
    Ah, this is why I like dairy farming, we have fancy stuff, like fences
    Plus they come in for the daily tittie rub so prob wouldn't go bush lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by deer243 View Post
    What you can hunt and what you cant is defined in your permit from DOC. In open hunting areas its wild game, tahr, pigs, deer, cham, wallbys goats and thats it. Sheep or cattle isnt named so you have no permit to hunt those and shooting them is against the law on a open permit.. So that answers most of your questions, no grey matter, clear as anything....dont shoot stock! Some areas, not many you can get a permit stating that you can hunt wild cattle or sheep. These areas will have a stock of wild animals and unlikly farmed stock. Even thou it has to be wild, anything with a ear tag is no go. Lets face it, if you in a general DOC hunting area and you see a cattle beast if you shoot it you nothing better than a poacher.......breaking ones permit and prob taking someones stock
    So if i came across a hare, rabbit, wild cat, or the likes in doc land and wanted to shoot it it would be against the law?

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    @HNTMAD you would of wound a few farmers up with your words.

    As for who owns them, it certainly isn't you!

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    Simple commonsense I would think. Some of the comments on here is the reason why some cockies dont trust hunters and make it hard work for access etc. Im a farmer and Ive dealt with plenty of strange townies when it comes to hunting, they are a different breed.

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    Stock on doc land...

    Are sheep cows or livestock on your hunting permit?
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    Wouldn't matter where a cat was Gareth Morgan would still want ya to shoot it oi

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    Yes I have upset some on here. It is a good discussion, I don't pretend to know everything but I have asked the question of ownership and read some legal stuff and this is my opinion( as in what was put in one of my posts from this site in 2013)and I think at the end of the day any passionate farmer is going to defend there stock as it's there's.....if it can be identified.... And that is the line any farmer is going to take. Yes I know what is on my permit before you ask. I would suggest that most of @BRADS cattle are unlikely to wander many kms into the bush and stay there, Yes i would say there are the odd people out there that would shoot one under a km from a farm with or without tag ( even though I said I would early on, it is about distance from farm and age and identity which is where I was coming from). This like the 1080 threads that come up will always ignite passionate people, threaten your parked cars for the protection of their stock etc . I have no doubt I would be the same. Yes I would talk to people if I saw cattle many kms up in doc land, people like the farmers, doc etc. Certainly wouldn't be boom sorry if I were unable to identify the owner that's for sure. I know.others would. But if those parties said...nope not mine or if you see it shoot it I possible would.

    Again passionate discussion

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    There was no way I was shooting the cattle in the instance that started this but I thought it was worthy of a thread...
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    I know a guy who was hunting in private bush adjacent to a sheep farm. He noted several sheep and lambs well inside the boundary. They'd clearly missed at least one shearing, and the lambs hadn't been docked. No tags. He left them, checked with the owner of the bush block, who gave him the go-ahead. Went back and took the animals. Seems fair to me in that example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stretch View Post
    I know a guy who was hunting in private bush adjacent to a sheep farm. He noted several sheep and lambs well inside the boundary. They'd clearly missed at least one shearing, and the lambs hadn't been docked. No tags. He left them, checked with the owner of the bush block, who gave him the go-ahead. Went back and took the animals. Seems fair to me in that example.

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    Was the owner of the bush same as adjacent sheep farm?

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