Thread: Tahr cull ? Extermination? What’s happening ?

Originally Posted by kotuku

Its another bloody tragedy involving genuine people tasked to do a job ,whilst the over fucking paid political masters in wellington indulge in more sandpit scraps.
listen you pricks up there 5tand to attention shut your mouths(Gonad Ross and spotty dick bridges take note) and ponder the deaths of three total professionals who dies doing a POLIS bidding!
Given sir Tim was born and raised in the closest thing to heaven on earth-the immortal west coast and tha t family have given so much over the years to all sorts of NZ ventures and aviation,my heart weeps at the price they are paying.they did not deserve this nor did the late morgan saxton,and so many before them ,so respect from nzs media is WELL OVERDUE!
Jamie lee ross -get back in your fucking kennel and stay there.
eugenie sage -as a mark of respect to the fallen HALT ALL OPERATIONS
excuse the rant -Im 64 TOMMORROW AND I AINT ACHEIVED 10% OF what THESE GUYS have done and it makes me bloody angry ,theyre taken so soon.

Happy Birthday!! Your right @Rushy bum and a couple behind me!! Enjoy!

Originally Posted by Boaraxa

This is becoming all to familiar , how many choppers have gone down in the last 3-4 years , NO DISRESPECT TO THOSE INVOLVED AT ALL , but last I heard they were recovering Tahr carcasses ? how does a 59 & 63 yo do that , perhaps my mind is a little cynical but a pilot and 2 shooters does spring to mind, interesting enough I see the article mentions a new 500 was on lease so some truth to two new 500,s for the cull , again NO disrespect to those involved in this tragedy but perhaps there's a few reality's coming to light , maybe the 100,000 rounds of ammo to cull 17500 Tahr is pretty close to the mark also , so near on 6 rounds per animal , iv been around long enough to no once these consents get granted away you go , anyone complains Oh they are allowed to do that , unless there is someone sitting in the chopper counting numbers ....how many have they shot ? id really like to hear the ministers take on that.

I was told yesterday that the 'culling' would be done with Buckshot. Is this correct ??. If they are shot with buckshot the pattern at 50 -60 metres will be pretty open and a lot of animals will be shot with only one or two pellets - in the arse or the guts and escape to die slowly with a lot of suffering, certainly raising welfare issues.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

I was told yesterday that the 'culling' would be done with Buckshot. Is this correct ??. If they are shot with buckshot the pattern at 50 -60 metres will be pretty open and a lot of animals will be shot with only one or two pellets - in the arse or the guts and escape to die slowly with a lot of suffering, certainly raising welfare issues.

No. The pilots are seasoned venison pilots. They will hunt them like they do deer.
Max effective range for buckshot is 20-25 yards. 30 is even a stretch.
They will no doubt have a rifle on board as well.



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The word is that the first crew out last week did 6hrs flying in the upper Rakaia for 160 tahr shot. Going to be an expensive operation for Doc at that rate.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

I was told yesterday that the 'culling' would be done with Buckshot. Is this correct ??. If they are shot with buckshot the pattern at 50 -60 metres will be pretty open and a lot of animals will be shot with only one or two pellets - in the arse or the guts and escape to die slowly with a lot of suffering, certainly raising welfare issues.

I believe they are using 223

Just got back from a couple days tahr hunting in an area that has obviously been culled pretty heavily. 2 days hunting seen 6 tahr and of the 6 there was only 1 nanny. They were all pretty much spread out as individuals. Found 7 dead tahr while walking around and one of them looked like it had been shot with buckshot. Of the 7 dead tahr we found 6 of them were bulls with one of them being around 11 inches

Originally Posted by outdoorlad

The word is that the first crew out last week did 6hrs flying in the upper Rakaia for 160 tahr shot. Going to be an expensive operation for Doc at that rate.

You mean for the tax payer?DoC don’t care!

Originally Posted by Lukeduncan

Just got back from a couple days tahr hunting in an area that has obviously been culled pretty heavily. 2 days hunting seen 6 tahr and of the 6 there was only 1 nanny. They were all pretty much spread out as individuals. Found 7 dead tahr while walking around and one of them looked like it had been shot with buckshot. Of the 7 dead tahr we found 6 of them were bulls with one of them being around 11 inches

Did you take photos ?? It would be worth reporting this to GAC - just google them and ask them to give DOC a 'please explain'

Originally Posted by R93

No. The pilots are seasoned venison pilots. They will hunt them like they do deer.
Max effective range for buckshot is 20-25 yards. 30 is even a stretch.
They will no doubt have a rifle on board as well.



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I agree on the 25 yards and that is my point, any shot at further could end up wounded. I would have thought that using professional venison recovery teams was logical, and shooting with 223's

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Did you take photos ?? It would be worth reporting this to GAC - just google them and ask them to give DOC a 'please explain'

Yep took photos. The tahr have been dead for a while so I’m guessing it was from when they culled 4000 earlier in the year


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DOC aren't counting what they shoot.

Rumour has it that the cull has been stopped indefinitely. The loss of those 2 senior DOC workers has majorly thrown a spanner in the works.

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

DOC aren't counting what they shoot.

Sounds about right.

Then they can just cull indefinitely as they haven't reached the numbers yet

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There's so much uninformed bull shit in this thread.

Start by reading this: https://www.doc.govt.nz/globalassets...ional-plan.pdf

And then this: https://www.facebook.com/nztahrfoundation/

What has been said that you find BS @Tahr?