Thread: TB control in Molesworth

Originally Posted by MAC

Hi, might be a silly question - BUT
How much 1080 poison does an animal need to ingest before it takes affect?
Is it a different amount per animal size say opossum vs pig vs deer?
Is it quick or slow for the animal?
The stuff must stay in the system for awhile with no 'meat taken notice 4-6ths after drop'.

Thanks in advance

very much a varied thing..and dogs are one of the MOST sensitive to it....
slow and painful......
definately body size dependant....but if pellets are intended to kill big animals they sure as shooting will kill small ones...
4-6 mths is interesting one...havent heard that before its NORMALLY after X amount of rainfall...X being amount decided will wash any baits on ground enough to be non toxic anymore that MAY BE for commercial recovery....
as to how much???? thats a piece of string question..... how many whiskeys can you drink before it takes effect??? you will say X Mrs will say Y coppers will say Z and your buddies will say W
if animal is still walking around acting normally a couple of months after drop or 4" of rain later...its PROBABLY fairly safe to eat....always a dodgy time hunting after a drop.

You are right about the gear Hiawatha,its like watching a green spacesuit coming towards you with all that bling on.

Any word on when or if the NZDA are conducting the survey after the Ospri operation?

So what's the go then? I booked a block (outside the 1080 area) for last week of November, then the email comes through telling me no meat to be taken for 4-9 months after the drop. Waiting to hear if it's the whole of Molesworth.

If it is, because poisoned animals could roam into other blocks on the station, then my question is what about the adjacent PCL? Couldn't they just as easily roam in there?

My question here is this (and yes, I'm new to hunting): What's the risk to us if we take meat from a non-1080 block, 4 months after a drop?

Poisoned deer could move several km from a poisoned site. The cautions are in place for good reason.

Originally Posted by Woody

Poisoned deer could move several km from a poisoned site. The cautions are in place for good reason.

Understood

I haven't come across any warnings for St James (not saying there isn't any) but surely deer can cross the Clarence easily enough

Originally Posted by Happy Jack

I haven't come across any warnings for St James (not saying there isn't any) but surely deer can cross the Clarence easily enough

That's what I would've thought.

What about the Leathem? Any signs or warnings there? Thanks

@ Hunting Dad There’ll be guys on here that know a lot more than me. I think more risk in taking pork, they’ll move a long way and will happily dine on almost anything, secondary poisoning is possible. As for deer 4 months after the drop, you’d be unlucky to have issues. Use common sense.

I’m pretty sure as Moutere said the repellent is incorporated into the cereal bait, not just applied to exterior.

Interested in the collared numbers Moutere, groundbreaking if it’s true.

Yip, all third hand info.
Hope official findings back it up.

I doubt there were 100 deer captured and collared, more like 20. The last time deer were collared in the Clarence for research into the new repellent it was a very inefficient operation helicopter hour wise, should have got an expert WARO/capture crew to do it like our favourite Hanmer Springs pilot, not one in fluro vests with clipboards.

https://www.ospri.co.nz/wildlife-and...worth-station/

Ive emailed OSPRI asking how many deer were collared and their survival rate.

@Tahr

Be sure to post up their response.
Will be interesting to see the results.
Hopefully the repellant is awesome !!

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