Thread: Thar extermination

Originally Posted by norsk

We need to put an alternative spin on this.

1)Animal rights groups need to be notified of the Slaughter

2)Demands must be made on the utilization of the carcasses

3)Qualifications and identities of everyone involved at the sharp end need to be made public.That way anyone can look for irregularity.

The Green party wouldn't trawl lake Taupo and kill all the Trout,then throw them back in to Rot.So why are they doing the same to the Southern Alps...

We can't say "please dont shoot all the Thar...We want to shoot all the Thar"

Contact Animal rights groups,shut this down the back way.

Imagine the population explosion of all the Rats, cats, ferrets etc that will feed on the 20,000 odd thousand carcasses , the ones that land on ice will last for months and when the carcasses do run out the new plague of pests will turn on the native birds , bugs and fauna or how do they mitigate carcasses that fall into water ways , iv seen how far a dead Tahr can roll shot 1 on a scree a couple of years ago it rolled around 1.5 k,s !!

Originally Posted by Boaraxa

So far this is the only mailing address iv come up with , can any confirm if this is correct ?

Private Bag 18888
Parliament Buildings
Wellington 6160

This is the only address I can find.

I've emailed through a breif response/submission and will put one in the post on the way home from work as well.

Heres the original proposal by DOC and the minister

Whilst I dont agree with the numbers, tahr need to be culled, theres bloody heaps of the buggers about and they build up into near plague proportions in some areas. They are a good freezer filler but dont really interest me as a game animal anymore as youre guaranteed success if you look in the right places and it seems every man and his dog can go out and shoot a 12 or 13 inch plus bull and a tonne of nannies and younguns for the freezer. Its a shame that this mad woman at the helm just goes and makes these decisions seemingly without any kind of dialogue with interested parties other than her own bunch and in true DOC fashion, facts and figures are pulled from antiquated studies and figures to suit her agenda.

I think most agree with you Ryan. They definitely need culled in certain areas as the numbers are ridiculous. What people are angry about is the outright slaughter that DOC has proposed

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Think there is not really the worry about the numbers that need culling more the worry that we don't trust these buggers that they will stop! Time and again they have said one thing and then gone and done the exact opposite.
But yes get ya pens out boys and girls and pester your local politicians as well as this main mp and the shadow mp. The more the better even if you don't live our hunt in the South Island.
A reduction is needed by the sounds of it but from what I've just read here......can we really trust them to keep there word!?

I just asked the minister why they were picking on Tahr and not introduced predators like Brown and Rainbow trout.

Whilst writing to MPs is better than nothing, the ONLY thing that seems to sway politicians is bad publicity.

What you need to do is to flood the public domain with photos of dead Tahr, accompanied by a photo of the politician who ordered it.

Just look at the politicians who have resigned from office recently. What made them resign wasn’t what they did, it was the pressure they came under for what they did by it being made public.

I would bet that a very high proportion of the NZ public have never seen a Tahr - many probably wouldn’t know what one was, but that doesn’t mean they won’t be affected by photos of dead animals left to rot on the hillside. The reason this slaughter is going ahead is because most of the voting public are oblivious to the fact it is happening.

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

Whilst I dont agree with the numbers, tahr need to be culled, theres bloody heaps of the buggers about and they build up into near plague proportions in some areas. They are a good freezer filler but dont really interest me as a game animal anymore as youre guaranteed success if you look in the right places and it seems every man and his dog can go out and shoot a 12 or 13 inch plus bull and a tonne of nannies and younguns for the freezer. Its a shame that this mad woman at the helm just goes and makes these decisions seemingly without any kind of dialogue with interested parties other than her own bunch and in true DOC fashion, facts and figures are pulled from antiquated studies and figures to suit her agenda.

I see you point.

However culling them and leaving them to Rot is only because they are classed as a pest.

If the Government is forced to recover the animals,the cost will increase ten fold. Then they will be forced to look at alternatives such as licencing foreign hunters or a quota system for guides. This could ultimatley cause a shift in the Thar status to game animal.

My main concern is the seeming contempt that this woman and her Department has for public consultation

They could let the crews recover the meat, that way there is no cost to the government, let the ground hunters have a good crack in the easy to get to places, if they don’t do the job to the standard let the WARO guys in, to get the numbers down, if they fail then cull them and let them go waste, just my thoughts on trying to keep everyone happy and have their slice of the pie, not too everyone’s liking I know, but hey I tried.

@Fat ninja this seems to be just the reason that we are at this point is that not enough have been taken by the recreational hunters.
Ask @gimp he knows more.

Sent an email hope it helps reminded her she's a public servant and wonder if this was really serving the publics interest prob never get read

E-Mail sent, ground hunters have never had it easy in terms of access, take for example the wilderness areas which are only open to helicopter access for a few months of the year. Surly if they wanted to have recreational hunters do more then the access should be opened up. DOC if they were serious about reducing numbers in areas of high populations could fly hunters in for culling operations at a reduced cost.

I wonder where NZ First is in all of this. They say they champion the shooter rights, Wached Ron Mark stand in the house and gave a great speech re licenced shooters rights.
Has any one been in contact with NZF re this cull.