Thread: Warning Distressing and Disturbing Photographs- 1080 Poison

Originally Posted by Scribe

In the Dom Post today

Possum Trapper was convicted and fined $300 plus $353 costs for using illegal leg hold traps.

Judge Hastings said despite possums being a pest there was still the obligation to treat them humanely......

Well what do you think of that then????.

Too right Scribe, there is no equity in this situation at all.

Originally Posted by Dougie

Facebook already done - I have a personal page as well as a 'military' page (I was not allowed to have subordinates as social media 'friends' so made a persona of my rank into a page) and have already had many friends share the link to this thread.

Over 500 military mates have seen the link.

Damn Dougie, I love a woman of action. I hope it goes absolutely viral.

Go onto Youtube and look at "THE BEER FOR THE NOCTURNAL MIGRATION - Tooheys Extra Dry"

This advertisement for Tooheys extra dry beer aimed at the Australian market was shot using my and a near neighbours herd. One of my hand reared hinds (Zoe) features prominently in the ad (looking out the window of the apartment, eating the burger at the pie cart, kissing the stag at the end etc). Imagine the hue and cry here and abroad if I deliberately fed her some 1080 this evening. In all reality, how would that be any different to what DoC and AHB et al do day in and day out?

Originally Posted by Rushy

Go onto Youtube and look at "THE BEER FOR THE NOCTURNAL MIGRATION - Tooheys Extra Dry"This advertisement for Tooheys extra dry beer aimed at the Australian market was shot using my and a near neighbours herd. One of my hand reared hinds (Zoe) features prominently in the ad (looking out the window of the apartment, eating the burger at the pie cart, kissing the stag at the end etc). Imagine the hue and cry here and abroad if I deliberately fed her some 1080 this evening. In all reality, how would that be any different to what DoC and AHB et al do day in and day out?

The difference would be you would go to prison .

Originally Posted by Munsey

The difference would be you would go to prison .

Exactly my point Munsey. Where would be the equity in that?

Sidenote - cool ad Rushy!

Originally Posted by Dougie

Sidenote - cool ad Rushy!

Yeh, they paid me more to rent Zoe for a fortnight than I would have sold her to them for (let alone the rest of the herd). There is a chance of a second ad with the same theme being shot and since then I have hand reared a young stag fawn that could become a star. Bloody hand reared's are the biggest pain in the arse on the property until someone wants to pay you to borrow one for a while. Dougie that ad is a typical example of what not to believe when you see something on a screen these days. Not one of the stags still had antlers on when that was shot. They are all digitally enhanced. It was fucking chaos (and at times hilarious to watch) while they were shooting the various scenes as not one of the arty farty types had any knowledge of deer whose only instinct is to shoot the gap if you put pressure on them.

Is there a facebook link or page for us to share?

Originally Posted by Pointer

Is there a facebook link or page for us to share?

I just linked to this thread.

can you link the page in this thread too please ?

Originally Posted by Scribe

We have been feeding this stuff to the media for years...They just wont touch it.

Doesnt matter whether it is baits in peoples water supplys...Cows poisoned drinking out of the local streams or what.

Google.... "SPCA Horrified 1080 Still Killing Deer"...and you will see more on the subject but not one newspaper has picked up on it. The Govt has got a hold on them alright...

The TV agencies have told us outright that they wont risk their "TV On Air" money they get from the Govt showing anything like this.

Hell though if this was all about a little piglet in a Farmers pen they would be climbing all over it.

10,000 marching down Queens St, with 5,000 outside parliament yelling and screaming and kicking up one hell of a fuss. The media is not going to ignore that, and our arrogant govt will have trouble ignoring it as well. This is a get off your arse and get angry, in numbers issue.

Originally Posted by eltoro

10,000 marching down Queens St, with 5,000 outside parliament yelling and screaming and kicking up one hell of a fuss. The media is not going to ignore that, and our arrogant govt will have trouble ignoring it as well. This is a get off your arse and get angry, in numbers issue.

Hunters are there own worst enemy. We had a fairly successful anti 1080 march in Whitianga a few years ago. But there was hardly a figure at the march from the group most affected by 1080 drops in the Coromandel (the pig hunters) I bailed a few of them over the weeks and asked the where they were...They nearly all said..Aw we thought everybody would be at the march so we went and poached such and suchs block or the pines or some other bloody place.

Originally Posted by eltoro

10,000 marching down Queens St, with 5,000 outside parliament yelling and screaming and kicking up one hell of a fuss. The media is not going to ignore that, and our arrogant govt will have trouble ignoring it as well. This is a get off your arse and get angry, in numbers issue.

I'd walk that mile down Queen Street to add voice to this issue. Maybe someone on this forum has some experience organising such a demonstration of civil dischord.

Originally Posted by Rushy

I'd walk that mile down Queen Street to add voice to this issue. Maybe someone on this forum has some experience organising such a demonstration of civil dischord.

It hasnt worked in Auckland in the past. We had a march in Auckland after the Rangitoto/Motutapu brodifacoum drop in 2009 that killed so many seabirds, fish, and marine mammals. It was embarrassing how few turned up.

99% of Aucklanders are so divorced from their roots in the Country that they really wouldnt know a native bird if they saw one nor do they have any interest at all in poisons or where they are being dropped.

It is better if we continue the way we are. Local groups all doing their own thing and all putting pressure on the Government all in their own ways.

Thames Landcare ran a petition here on the Coromandel and had it presented to Parliment along with the West Coasters ...The Then we all appeared before a Parlimentry Select Committee... That trimmed DOC/AHBs feathers for them.

Join a group ...The fastest growing group in New Zealand ..F.A.T.E... Farmers against ten eighty.

The most effective protest still, is all you farmers and town folk put up a dirty big sign on the roadside saying what you think of 1080 The proliferation of all the roadside signs on the West Coast is causing all our tourists to pay real attention to whats going on.

My sign on the Thames Coromandel Highway says,,,,
TARGET THE PEST
NOT THE WHOLE DAMNED ECOSYSTEM.

Originally Posted by Scribe

It hasnt worked in Auckland in the past. We had a march in Auckland after the Rangitoto/Motutapu brodifacoum drop in 2009 that killed so many seabirds, fish, and marine mammals. It was embarrassing how few turned up.

99% of Aucklanders are so divorced from their roots in the Country that they really wouldnt know a native bird if they saw one nor do they have any interest at all in poisons or where they are being dropped.

It is better if we continue the way we are. Local groups all doing their own thing and all putting pressure on the Government all in their own ways.

Thames Landcare ran a petition here on the Coromandel and had it presented to Parliment along with the West Coasters ...The Then we all appeared before a Parlimentry Select Committee... That trimmed DOC/AHBs feathers for them.

Join a group ...The fastest growing group in New Zealand ..F.A.T.E... Farmers against ten eighty.

The most effective protest still, is all you farmers and town folk put up a dirty big sign on the roadside saying what you think of 1080 The proliferation of all the roadside signs on the West Coast is causing all our tourists to pay real attention to whats going on.

My sign on the Thames Coromandel Highway says,,,,
TARGET THE PEST
NOT THE WHOLE DAMNED ECOSYSTEM.

I'm not the worlds most accomplished hunter but I've got lots of experience with activism. Working away diligently behind the scenes for year after year will not work. The cause must be thrust into public conciousness with as much force as possible and then kept there. Yeah you aren't going to get Aucklanders (in general) to rally on mass. But there needs to be a central point of focus. And all those who give a shit, and there seems to be heaps, need to get off their arse and make the effort. A lot of tough, manly, macho men to this forum probably despise the likes of John Minto but there's a good example of how to fight for a cause.