Thread: Wasps

Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

Hawkeye is protein and carb based and doesn't need to be frozen so is usable all year round

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There is only a very small window each year when the wasps are interested in protein, ie now until late feb early march'ish.

Rest of the year i think you will find they are not interested in it.

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Originally Posted by kukuwai

There is only a very small window each year when the wasps are interested in protein, ie now until late feb early march'ish.

Rest of the year i think you will find they are not interested in it.

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That's why Hawkeye is sugar based as well and does not attract honey bees.

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Also works very well against spiders...

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

the yellow pottle no more wasps will work....sprinkle it on as much of entrance holes as you can reach..by tomorrow they will be dead
Im told the tin of tuna and few drops of drontal type flea treatment works a treat ONCE the wasps are feeding on tuna/protein and thats where arguments start as hungry wasps will hone in on meat all summer long....
I HATE the hot arsed germanic huas...

yeah I have heard that frontline flea treatment also works but never tried it preefeed tuna cat food and then mix in frontline and apparently works now dont get me started on homemade cat recipes another story ( private emails only not on the forum )

"No more wasps" works fine if you do it properly. Carbaryl works even better, see if you can find it in the garden department at your local store cos its not meant to be used for wasps. Find the entry to the nest, easy on a foggy or dewy morning, then sprinkle around the entrance. The wasps will walk it in and kill the whole nest, not just the active ones. If you cant get close enough to the nest, the 5ft piece of hose is the answer, push it in to the "No more wasps" so it packs in to the end of the hose about 50mm, insert end of hose just inside entrance to the hive and give a decent big huff on the other end. This scatters it all around where they walk in and out and they track it all in to the depths of the hive - job done. Petrol dont work that well, doesnt actually kill the whole nest.

Had them in the roof cavity once, chucked a couple of bug bombs in their direction, shut the man double quick. Sorted

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

yeah I have heard that frontline flea treatment also works but never tried it preefeed tuna cat food and then mix in frontline and apparently works now dont get me started on homemade cat recipes another story ( private emails only not on the forum )

Fipronil is the active bit in Verspex, also some flea treatments like spot on. You can use it for wasps, but it needs to be in a bait station as sunlight and moisture stuffs it pronto. You want to make it strong enough to end the wasps in the nest where the young die, not nuking the foraging wasps instantly... Plain tuna canned in spring water is a reasonable bait source, needs to be protein and used when the wasps are carting protein back to the nest for the young. It needs to be a plain protein, hence the tuna in spring water with no oils or flavours. A teaspoon of tuna, with one or two droplets of fipronil mixed in evenly should do it - possibly use something to put two droplets in and a small amount of red food colour then mix it into the tuna without going backwards as you don't want to contaminate your stuff you use for your food... Put it into the station then up near where wasps are foraging away from flowers or near the ground.

Originally Posted by No.3

Fipronil is the active bit in Verspex, also some flea treatments like spot on. You can use it for wasps, but it needs to be in a bait station as sunlight and moisture stuffs it pronto. You want to make it strong enough to end the wasps in the nest where the young die, not nuking the foraging wasps instantly... Plain tuna canned in spring water is a reasonable bait source, needs to be protein and used when the wasps are carting protein back to the nest for the young. It needs to be a plain protein, hence the tuna in spring water with no oils or flavours. A teaspoon of tuna, with one or two droplets of fipronil mixed in evenly should do it - possibly use something to put two droplets in and a small amount of red food colour then mix it into the tuna without going backwards as you don't want to contaminate your stuff you use for your food... Put it into the station then up near where wasps are foraging away from flowers or near the ground.

Or just buy tested and approved stuff

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Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

Or just buy tested and approved stuff

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Verspex is a bit of a non-starter for 'home' or smaller type jobs, $58 plus farting around to get registered and then you have to actually get the stuff on top of that which requires freezer transport etc etc. OK if you have the work for it. For the average home or lifestyle block it's just a non-starter. I looked seriously at getting the approval to purchase and complete Monsanto's product husbandry requirements but it was just too much as you can't get a small enough pack to use it all before the expiries.

Some of the over-the-counter products we tried just didn't work, literally we were feeding the bloody things and they were coming back for more! Tied a tracking cotton to a couple of wasps and counted them back at least three times. That's when I got told about the spot on, and how to not kill bees with it - that's what was pissing me off the most with the wasps the bastards were ripping the heads off the bees and taking the bodies laden with pollen back to the nest and feeding the young up on bee protein with pollen for desert. The spot on treated tuna definitely dealt to them, over two days no more wasps. Much more bees in evidence, and since then only a few small paper wasp nests of 4-5 adults (easy to sort by knocking to the ground) and very few German or Common wasps in evidence and probably at the extreme limits of their foraging range.

Thanks for all the answers team, i contacted the neighbours and they have engaged wasp specialists to get rid of it at 3pm tomorrow

Hamish

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Originally Posted by kukuwai

If its germans or common wasps.... Vespex 100% !!

Hit them when they are chasing the protien (now thru jan & feb) you will destroy nests blocks away without having to find the nests.

No good for paper wasps as they won't take bait only hunt live insects.

Google it. Easy online test before you buy.
1 tub will last years if kept in the freezer

Note: what ever you do dont mix it with any sugar based product (jam etc) or you will smoke 100's of bees !!!! This is the main reason it is a protein based bait !!



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Second this. I setup some bait station grids for some friends in the Marlborough Sounds. They couldn’t believe the difference it made. They could actually go back into the beech forest around their house without wasps raining everywhere.

Wonder how youse would have gone with black snakes and scorpions .
When wasps are your issue u live in paradise

We did the frontline in tuna for a few years. 5 drops in a medium sized can, I think 185gm? Worked well but its a pain. Then vespex came came out. Its great, a short time on the laptop to get registered and then picked up a 600gm pot . Once a year is all thats needed. Iv frozen some in the small bait tubs that come with it so its like a lot of little cubes, I can just grab one when needed. I dont bother with prebaiting or half the shit thats recommended. The yellow fold up bait stations need some duct tape though, they have a habit of coming open in the wind. Hardly ever see a wasp around home now.
I havn't head of hawkeye, Ill look it up but I doubt I change from vespex. 2 years now and still going on the first pot.

Originally Posted by Sharki

Wonder how youse would have gone with black snakes and scorpions .
When wasps are your issue u live in paradise

I would have gone to the airport, bought a ticket to NZ then bought some vespex.