Thread: When is a shotgun not a shot gun?

No kidding... never knew that (please note the sarcasm this time).
What I was getting at is that by the Oxford description, defining a shotgun as a smoothbore weapon that is loaded with small projectiles, a blunderbuss firing grapeshot is a shotgun, but load it with a single projectile and it's not. So a shotgun (as we know it) firing a slug isn't a shotgun.

Originally Posted by peril 787b

So a shotgun (as we know it) firing a slug isn't a shotgun.

I can accept the truth in that statement, however the bit that I struggle with is that immediately before it was fired and immediately after the solid leaves the barrel, it becomes a shotgun again and should not be on DoC land.

So get a rifled barrel for your shotgun and its legal on doc land?

Originally Posted by Toby

So get a rifled barrel for your shotgun and its legal on doc land?

In my opinion yep.

Originally Posted by Toby

So get a rifled barrel for your shotgun and its legal on doc land?

I think the type of ammo you were carrying would be more of a problem if on DoC land

The problem for some is that you are looking at the trees and not seeing the forest.
With shotguns there is a "Paradox" ,they were even called that at one time. So take the example of a Man who has a sex change operation, his DNA says he is a man but his/her appearance (and bits) are that of a woman and legally she is a woman even though science will say she is not.

Is that what causes shotgun weddings?

Originally Posted by Tankd

The problem for some is that you are looking at the trees and not seeing the forest.
With shotguns there is a "Paradox" ,they were even called that at one time. So take the example of a Man who has a sex change operation, his DNA says he is a man but his/her appearance (and bits) are that of a woman and legally she is a woman even though science will say she is not.

After that I will look at my shotty in a new light and will stop rubbing and cupping the trigger guard

Originally Posted by Spook

After that I will look at my shotty in a new light and will stop rubbing and cupping the trigger guard

And start flicking the safety and fingering the breach?

Tell the DoC ranger "Stick your finger in here and see if I am smooth bore or rifled"

Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper

Is that what causes shotgun weddings?

No, that's what's left after the shotgun goes off

Ability to chamber a shot cartridge isn't the definition of a shotgun, can do that in most straightwalled cartridges and .22lr/.22wmr


I think it'd have to be looked at in context, ie smoothbore or rifled, cartridges possessed, whether you were found chewing on a kereru drumstick, etc

After several enquiries a DoC permit arrived in the mail today, in the "special conditions" box- "permitted shotgun use with buck shot or solids"

Originally Posted by gimp

Ability to chamber a shot cartridge isn't the definition of a shotgun, can do that in most straightwalled cartridges and .22lr/.22wmr


I think it'd have to be looked at in context, ie smoothbore or rifled, cartridges possessed, whether you were found chewing on a kereru drumstick, etc

Done right you wont need to chew anything Gimp

The meat will just melt right off that drumstick and onto your tongue ........ apparently ......... or so I read .......... or heard .............. or something along those lines ...... a long time ago ....... maybe I was thinking of chicken

Cheers
Pete

Originally Posted by peril 787b

So I can't use a smooth barrel black powder? Stink.

But you can borrow my rifled shotgun! It has straight rifling