Thread: World Record Red Deer!!!!......according to an American

Originally Posted by Bavarian_Hunter

Very well said mate. Trophy hunting in itself isn't a dirty word depending on what you want out of it. My motto has always been that a trophy isn't measured in inches.

Exactly. Thats something a love about hunting - you can't cheat it. The satisfaction I get from making a kill is directly related to the difficulty. Nothing can buy me the satisfaction, the only way to get it is to put in the hard yards. If I pay for an easy kill, it just won't be the same.

As Rushy put it to me "every time I don't get one, I invest equity into the next time I do get one"

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Hurry up then!!!

Originally Posted by Gibo

Hurry up then!!!

Didn't you listen to Rushy, I'm not a useless hunter I'm just saving up equity into my next kill

Originally Posted by phillipgr

Didn't you listen to Rushy, I'm not a useless hunter I'm just saving up equity into my next kill

Phillip if you are going to quote me you need to get it correct. It is "sweat equity"

Rushy I wasn't aware that you were a philosopher. Guess you're more than just a pretty face!

Originally Posted by Bavarian_Hunter

Guess you're more than just a pretty face!

Yes I am.. I am a fine judge of good whiskey and horse flesh as well.

Originally Posted by Rushy

Yes I am.. I am a fine judge of good whiskey and horse flesh as well.

I'm picturing you know sitting back on an Italian leather chair next to an open fire sipping on whiskey with a big mustache and a monocle surrounded by exotic game animal mounts on the high ceiling wall, most from Africa.

Originally Posted by Bavarian_Hunter

I'm picturing you know sitting back on an Italian leather chair next to an open fire sipping on whiskey with a big mustache and a monocle surrounded by exotic game animal mounts on the high ceiling wall, most from Africa.

Don't forget the white suit.

Originally Posted by Bavarian_Hunter

I'm picturing you know sitting back on an Italian leather chair next to an open fire sipping on whiskey with a big mustache and a monocle surrounded by exotic game animal mounts on the high ceiling wall, most from Africa.

Steady on Jack. I am just a boy from the bush.

Originally Posted by phillipgr

Don't forget the white suit.

So that is how you see me Phillip. Colonel fucking Sanders. Ha ha ha ha

I'm personally still after my 1st stag, but have definitely enjoyed learning the hard way bush hunting piropiro and the delicious meaty goodness I have got so far...

Originally Posted by phillipgr

This is why the trophy hunting game seems a bit silly to me. Here is a hunter who has never hunted even in the country where the trophy was taken, she hasn't spent any time map hunting, doing recces or learning the lay of the land, and the animal is taken from a place where there is little (or no) hunting pressure. The quality of a trophy says little about the quality of the hunter under these circumstances - so who is the record holder then?

I like the way trophy hunting spurs hunters on to becoming highly skilled as to hunt an intelligent animal that "didn't get big by being dumb" but the head alone can't determine how hard it is to hunt the animal.



I would be more proud of myself as a hunter if I took a 10pt off heavily hunted public land than I would if I shot the animal in the video above.

Just my 2c and nothing against trophy hunters at all.

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totally agree !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!with you mate !!!! that is hunting !!! congrats !!!respect the essence of the hunt for the hunter

It must be very difficult to take a client on the hill and guarantee a free range trophy size deer head , no matter how well the property is managed , size would decrease unless new genetic stock is introduced , maybe in the shape of pregnant hinds . It must be a constant worry trying to keep red deer from wandering into neighboring properties , All those farm tracks must help tho.

welcome to the world of bullshit guiding.
thats why I dont guide for red deer.

I am ashamed to say I have been involved in two 'canned' hunts.
its bullshit. Ile never do it again. I have lost alot of respect for gus after watching a vid of him involved in a heli hunt.

The rule with these stags(my understanding) is most properties like this have deer behind wire(a couple of thousand acres) which are truly huge.
Then they have the rest of the farm(50 000+ acres) which has varying grades of deer on it. These are usually wild stock deer but every year they release a few big stags and cull the small ones. from what I have seen the big guys usually stay around the front of the blocks as the real wild stags beat the shit out of them come the roar.
they are "free range" as in there is no fence but it is no way hunting as we see it.
I can tell you after 2 months of guiding a wild stag on DOC land looks tiny. Stags in the 350+ range are very common on these properties