I had a Heavy Barrell Savage HMR - sold it for a standard barrell HM2
Didn't like the weight of the barrell - fine for sitting and shooting
Hate the plastic stock on it though
Next time would be a CZ or similar - wooden stock
I had a Heavy Barrell Savage HMR - sold it for a standard barrell HM2
Didn't like the weight of the barrell - fine for sitting and shooting
Hate the plastic stock on it though
Next time would be a CZ or similar - wooden stock
I have just got a savage 93 r17 brj has a heavy barrel but doesnt feel to much to carry around and the trigger is great
Got mine very lightly used off Muzr. I have a feeling that the version I have was some ridiculous price like $2.5k new... I gave him my CZ455 & some cash for it. Has an aftermarket alloy trigger guard and trigger springs etc which finish it off really nicely. Very accurate too. It has a 22WMR barrel on it, which I'm not in any hurry to change either
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Ive got a sako quad in 17hmr. Nice bit of kit, extremely smooth action and deadly accurate. Trigger is also quite adequate and easily adjusted, you will save money there.
I have a 17hmr CZ425 (left handed of course). Nice little rifle. Shoots well although the factory trigger isn't flash. Sort or two stage when it isn't sposed to be.
http://www.yodaveproducts.com
Huge improvement over factory trigger...
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I'm a fan of the Savages, accurate and nice to shoot. As others have said you don't really need a heavy barrel for a rimfire, but nothing wrong with them if you like the feel and don't mind a bit of extra weight - they still aren't that heavy overall and balance well.
CZ's are nice rifles, usually better finished and pretty good accuracy too but as standard the triggers aren't in the same league so I'd factor a trigger upgrade into the extra cost over a Savage as well.
Matre just got a Zastava which seems good too and shoots well.
I had the CZ455 17HMR with the heavy barrel.
Great rifle!
But don't get the heavy barrel if you intend to go walking with it. The 17HMR is a very light round, and has stuff-all barrel flip.
You're better off getting a normal barrel and a suppressor - won't move while you watch your round hit through your ultra-zoom scope
Scary accurate, does immense damage to small critters. It WILL make you smile
Weihrauch hw 60.( if you can find one) Full sized rifle, euro quality, very accurate, excellent trigger. Had an Anschutz for about 8 years before and I prefer the HW 60 by a fair margin. Around $1200 IIRC.
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I went down this road a few years ago myself and narrowed it down to 3, Marlin, CZ and Savage. In the end I went with the Savage BRJ as it met all my requirements. It is a fairly heavy rig but I wanted it for sitting and sniping rabbits.
The reason I went with the Savage over the other makes was it was the only one that had an adjustable factory trigger. It also has a heavy target barrel and solid laminate stock. Perfect for what I was wanting.
Do you think the heavy barrel adds anything to the .17 then? Could I put enough rounds through it to get a more than minimal advantage from having it, or would I just be better off with a standard barrel all round? Seems to be somewhat of a divergence of opinion on this matter.
It seems that there is no conclusive evidence that the Heavy barrel CZ is anymore accurate than the standard weight.
It wont heat up as much, but mu American hardly heats up much anyway.
I'd definitely go for a CZ over a Savage or Marlin. Some of the latter two have been known for poor build quality and a bit unreliable.
But all CZs are excellent feeling rifles, there may also be unreliable lemons out there, but on the whole the build quality seems a step above.
And considering they are pretty similarly priced.
The 455 is considered not quite as good as the 452, but there really isn't a huge amount in it.
I'd just go for whatever had the right price at the time.
The trigger on my 452 American isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than a lot of triggers I've used. It was pretty light from factory and only the tinniest amount of creep, but really nothing to be worried about. I think if my Tikka didn't have such a fantastic trigger, I would be 100% happy with the CZ one.
I also got a CZ452 and then installed a trigger kit (takes about an hour of fiddling around and cost me about $40, before the earthquakes, from Optics and Arms in Chch) for an excellent trigger. I compared it to the CZ453 set trigger and I think I prefer the 452 with the trigger kit. Very accurate rifle.
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