Thread: 17wsm and 17 hornet

Or there's the akley hornet as well

Ok so a 17 Fire ball is a .222 Remington necked down to .17, so mod would be a .222 and re-barrelled to .17 ??

NO ,

Its not a 222 case , its shorter than that , its a 221 fireball case

204 ruger people 204....

Or as 7mmsaum said, if you want to be real simple 223.

The noise difference between a hornet and a real centre fire would be neglible if both were suppressed

We need to have a Forum gong shoot soon

.223 only

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

We need to have a Forum gong shoot soon

.223 only

+1 Central North Island would be good

I agree with all saying 204 Ruger.
I'd go for 17HH if I didn't want a full size center fire, but if I wanted a step up in a full time varmint cartridge, it'd have to be 204.

Does the same speed as 17 Fireball but with a much better projectile, will get the same ballistics as a 22-250 but with way less powder, so longer barrel life.
The 20cal bullets have extremely good BCs for the weight.

What do you want to know, I have currently two CZ .17 hornets and a CZ .204, as well as a .17 fireball on a sako, also in stable a Sako vixen .222, a .22 hornet, sold off the .223 and both 22-250,
Pretty happy with the .17 cal for varmints and .204, and if I really want to reach out and touch something I take the 6mm Remington.
If you are after a cheap to load big on performance walking bunny gun, the .17 Hornet really punches above its weight, and leaves the hrm in the dust.
The winchester .17 mag rimfire as yet, dosnt have any quality rifles, and reports from the few guys I know, who have them are they should have waited.
If I had to pick only one it would be the .17 fireball, mostly because this is rifle and scope combo, but it's my most accurate rifle, and the 25gr v-max has a Bc of .230 so same as most normal .22 cal 50-55 gr weight and is faster and flatter, and less powder. Great long range varminter.

The .17 hornet or .22 hornet are the best value in cost to run. 10 gr powder, And performance is at least double your .17 hrm or .22 mag.
Lots of choices, kinda depends on weather you want a multi purpose rifle, ie .223 or .22-250, a long range bunny sniper .204 or .17 fireball, or a walkabout bunny buster then one of the two hornets.
There is others ie.222, .17 Remington, what are you trying to achieve??

Winchester do a single shot 1885 Low Wall in 17wsm...

.17 HRM, .17 Hornet, ..17 Fireball, .204 ruger, and . 22-250.

Originally Posted by Sidney

Winchester do a single shot 1885 Low Wall in 17wsm...

Macca being romantic with his guns, that is exactly what he needs :-)

Have a 17HMR now, love it for hares and long range bunnies. Makes too big a mess on bunnies I'm trying to recover. On the quiet places I'll still use my 22 subs. When I need to go really long, I have my 243 loaded with 55gr nosler BT's. So a 204 and 223 aren't worth it for me.

Just for Maca:
Model 1885 Low Wall Hunter Rimfire Octagon, -- Winchester Repeating Arms -- Product Model

Sexy as :-)

20 vartarg (221fb necked to 20cal would have a little more wind bucking ability than the 17 version one would think but that's only coming from limited experience with 17hmr and 204 ruger which are way different beasts to each other

Originally Posted by rambo-6mmrem

20 vartarg (221fb necked to 20cal would have a little more wind bucking ability than the 17 version one would think but that's only coming from limited experience with 17hmr and 204 ruger which are way different beasts to each other

I have a mate that swears by his cooper Vartarg, I have sizing dies, was going to rebarrel my Sako to it, if it wouldn't shoot the 25 gr v-max, nothing between these two cal,.(17 fireball and .20 Vartarg). the .17 25g v-max has higher Bc than the 32 gr v-max and 35 gr Berger, the vartarg is strangled a bit with the 40 gr weight.

I am doing load development with my .204 CZ Varmint at the moment, it giving me 1/2" groups with the 32&35 gr bullets, with benchmark and varget, won't shoot 40 gr very well, and is amazing with the hornardy 45 gr soft point, I have not been able to find any 39 gr Sierra to try.

Layman sharps in .22 hornet.