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Thread: 1943 M1 Carbine on tardme @ $1200+ so far

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    1943 M1 Carbine on tardme @ $1200+ so far

    Have been watching a 1943 Irwin-Pedersen M1 Carbine go through to $1200+ so far, How far do you think it will go ??
    I know Irwin-Pedersen's are rare M1's but are they really worth that sort of money ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natatale View Post
    Have been watching a 1943 Irwin-Pedersen M1 Carbine go through to $1200+ so far, How far do you think it will go ??
    I know Irwin-Pedersen's are rare M1's but are they really worth that sort of money ???
    One person thinks so.

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    I'll see your rare irwinschmerwin and raise you this
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    Well it looks like a couple of collectors are at it, now just under $1800

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    Eek!! I can think of a few things that I'd rather spend $1800 on.

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    Interesting read:

    --M1 Carbines 50,000 (IP, did not make the M2, M3, T3, or M1A1 Carbines) : About 0% of M1 Carbines made. (Due to the fact that no completed IP carbines were ever accepted by the Ordinance Department.)

    --No complete Irwin-Pederson rifle were ever accepted by the U.S. Government. Any completed Irwin-Pederson rifles were most likely reassembled and reinspected by Saginaw (S'G') after they took over the contracts.

    --Irwin-Pederson did not meet the standards of the Government and their contracts were canceled on March 27th and Saginaw (S'G') took over on April 1st, 1943. Mixed Irwin-Pederson and Saginaw (S'G') parts can be found in these Carbines, but later carbines will have less IP parts because they used up all the IP parts.


    I thought my IBM was rare being one of the 5.7% of these produced but looks like this would be a collectors item.
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    [QUOTE=Hades;431743]Interesting read:
    Yep read the same article, and looked up a few M1 forums as well, was looking at purchasing it up to $750, looks like I under estimated the completion for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hades View Post
    Interesting read:

    --M1 Carbines 50,000 (IP, did not make the M2, M3, T3, or M1A1 Carbines) : About 0% of M1 Carbines made. (Due to the fact that no completed IP carbines were ever accepted by the Ordinance Department.)

    --No complete Irwin-Pederson rifle were ever accepted by the U.S. Government. Any completed Irwin-Pederson rifles were most likely reassembled and reinspected by Saginaw (S'G') after they took over the contracts.

    --Irwin-Pederson did not meet the standards of the Government and their contracts were canceled on March 27th and Saginaw (S'G') took over on April 1st, 1943. Mixed Irwin-Pederson and Saginaw (S'G') parts can be found in these Carbines, but later carbines will have less IP parts because they used up all the IP parts.


    I thought my IBM was rare being one of the 5.7% of these produced but looks like this would be a collectors item.
    So because it was originally a piece of shit now its worth more than one that was good enough?
    Odd
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    Quote Originally Posted by marky123 View Post
    I'll see your rare irwinschmerwin and raise you this
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    'Sniper' and variable E cat status, or Engrish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hades View Post
    --Irwin-Pederson did not meet the standards of the Government and their contracts were canceled on March 27th and Saginaw (S'G') took over on April 1st, 1943. Mixed Irwin-Pederson and Saginaw (S'G') parts can be found in these Carbines, but later carbines will have less IP parts because they used up all the IP parts.

    I thought my IBM was rare being one of the 5.7% of these produced but looks like this would be a collectors item.
    Wow, that's interesting to read. Is there a link available for this pls ? Really curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kscott View Post
    Wow, that's interesting to read. Is there a link available for this pls ? Really curious.

    A little history of Irwin-Pederson and its carbines. : Irwin Pedersen

    It's a bit like coin collecting I guess. Get ones with a flaw in the forging and it's worth a heap. Or double struck ones.

    CRAP- Collectible Rare Art Pieces
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    Cool, thanks.

 

 

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