Thread: The 22/250, what do you zap with it, what are its pros and cons.

Originally Posted by Flyblown

It already exists @jackson21. The wildcat .22 Creedmoor is starting to get some real traction in the states and its only a matter of time before it is commercialised.

Yeah interesting chambering that 22 creedmore. As you say flyblown, slowly gaining traction,, already companys producing brass for it including ADG as well as Petersen....

Originally Posted by 300_BLK

Had a 223 tikka 1:8 reamed to 22-204.

Best 22 centre fire out there.

22-250AI performance with 30grains or less of powder...

75gr @ 3100 from a 22” barrel
55gr @ 3850....
35gr @ !!!!

I was gonna suggest that.

Way more versatile and speed is crazy.

I had one for a while and loved it. Made a real mess of goats but I got hooked on the longer range game.

Originally Posted by jackson21

Can imagine chasing around after your brass for that! Do you hunt with it or just targets?

Do you mean hard to find new brass?
Always available, lapua 6br neck it down. Lasts ages, usually retire it after 20 odd fires.
Targets, long range rabbits, varmints etc. It was built heavy weight. 80gr about 3200 very accurate.

Started reading up about the 22 Creedmore but got to the bit where the Yanks are running in light frame Ar10's with good results, bastards...jealous and couldn't read any further

Originally Posted by jackson21

Started reading up about the 22 Creedmore but got to the bit where the Yanks are running in light frame Ar10's with good results, bastards...jealous and couldn't read any further

22-243

Dies available, as are dealers here and load data

The Speer 70 grain semi spitzer works in the 1:14 twist if you feel the need for a heavier constructed bullet.

They really work, but don't plan on displaying recovered projectiles - I never got one back. As a bonus, my Remington shot the 70 Speer and 55 VMax loads to the same place - no sight changes needed.

Originally Posted by 300_BLK

22-243

Dies available, as are dealers here and load data

I've got an old Winchester 670 .243 that could get that treatment with a new barrel in the future.

Mate just picked up a bargain BLR he brought it around & said guess what the cal is I could see the grin on his face so guessed rite , he,s another 22-250 fan , looking forward to having a play with it doesn't look like it has had much use , when I finish work im heading into the wilderness with my 22-250 it,s not the smallest or lightest rifle it,s got a bit of a bull barrel but so sweet to shoot , must get around to chronying the load for interest sake .

G'day all I have a sako 85 22-250 with 1-14 twist standard barrel I run 55gr Vmax @3415fps on 31.6gr bench mark 2 '' totally lethal ''also I have a 22-250 Ackley ''AI'' improved I-10 twist I run 60gr Hornady sp for 3900fps also lethal the 85 has had 3500 documented down the barrel and maybe 150 undocumented it still shoots .6 consistently the Ackley has had 2400 and showing signs of wear and tear but still shoots .7 not bad for a caliber prone to barrel wear but as you can see if the speed is kept at bay then the barrel life is better both rifles were work tools but were looked after with the right projectile, right twist rate and in the right hands the 22-250 is a quiet capable caliber some indigenous Canadians use the 22-250 to shoot Moose and Elk not a bad effort for a small caliber I dare say it would be perfect shot placement in this case

22-250 is great for 400 M goats and varmints.

But you'd find that a 243 Winchester would be just as useful. You can get a 100 grain going quite fast let alone a 55 grain.

Might not be as interesting.

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

Does it make more sense to launch the same or slightly greater weight of pill out of a 243 for a better result?

Originally Posted by Russian 22.

22-250 is great for 400 M goats and varmints. But you'd a that a 243 Winchester would be just as useful. You can get a 100 grain going quite fast let alone a 55 grain. Might not be as interesting.

I had a think about your question @Max Headroom, before just automatically answering "yes" just cos I'm a committed .243 fan. Truth is I don't remember ever using the 55-60gr bullets in .243 Win, thinking back the lightest I've ever used is probably 75gr.

I've often thought about giving it a try but haven't ever really seen the point as of course I've always had one or two of the .22 rifles in the safe.

So I think @Russian 22. is right, it's more interesting to have more rifles! But also to concentrate on getting a specific rifle to shoot the kind of bullet it was always designed to shoot as well as possible. In the case of the 243 Winchester that was bullets in the 80-100gr range originally, and for the 1:14" or 1:12" .22-250, 40-55gr.

Where the gap closes on the .243 is with the fast twist .22s and heavy for calibre bullets. Looking at some of the new high BC .22 cal offerings in the 70-80gr range, the ballistics look good, especially windage.

A quick example.

.22-250 Rem (1:9" twist)
80gr ELD-M
3300fps
100yd zero
10mph wind, 90°

300yds: -8" drop, 5" wind drift
400yds: -19" drop, 9" wind drift


.243 Win (1:10" twist)
75gr V-Max (closest Hornady 6mm bullet to the .224 ELD-M)
3400fps
100yd zero
10mph wind, 90°

300yds: -8" drop, 7" wind drift
400yds: -20" drop, 14" wind drift

You're right on the limit of stability with the 1:9" twist .22-250 and the 80gr ELD-M, which is why I favour the new high capacity but faster twist .22 cal cartridges, like .22 Creedmoor. Just don't expect to get much more than 1000 rounds out of a barrel!

Might be easier to find a 22-243.

Another barrel burner but motors along nicely.

I like the sound of the .22 Terminator, capable of the heavier pill as well....and pretty quick as well.