Thread: 22 Upgrade

@MB can you meet up with this fella and sort it with him???

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

@MB can you meet up with this fella and sort it with him???

No problem if he's reasonably close (Whangarei) and wants some help.

Originally Posted by Dmnc6

Not 100% set on a budget, but can be more than $800-1000. Right handed.
Might take a look at them

I have a bunch of 22s I love. But I recently picked up a Rossi 17HMR for $349 (new from GC), 18" barrel, threaded. Chucked a cheap scope on it and it shares the 22 suppressor. Sure the ammo is a bit more expensive, but hell it's point and click out to 120m (flat shooting), and has much better lethality at range. At 100m it can shoot MOA all day even with me behind the trigger.

This is mostly for bunny hunting, not so much plinking. My 22s have rarely been out of the safe recently. Just something worth considering.

Originally Posted by MB

That's terrible! Are you using it with a suppressor?

So terrible it's almost certainly not the rifle. Baffle striking in a suppressor, scope mounts are loose as a goose, or scope internals are rooted.

So maybe hasn't been threaded true to the bore, seen plenty of them with off center bores...

There was a thread on here a while back, pointing out the difference between JW 15s, relating to the year of manufacture. Check it out. Mine has a black synthetic stock and is superbly accurate.

Have had/polished about 20 JW15s for myself and others. Worst of them shot slightly over 1" groups at 50m, best is mate's one at 0.3s. Almost all shot sub half inch at best and averaged close to that - after barrel chop to 16" and recrown. Sold one recent JW project on this forum about 6 weeks ago - that was typical with a best of 0.43" at 50m, and average (3 groups) of 0.54". Accurate wee shooters and yes a match for CZ on range.

GC ones were often very poor - looked like they were made from a junk parts bin with sometimes poor barrel connection, poor rifling etc. Also Polytech branded JWs poor. I prefer older ones - both wood and synthetic shoot fine.

With this JW, I think Micky's checklist spot on - as is Makros' comment. Run through his checklist. It does sound however like clipping - bullet hitting suppressor on exit. Would account for big spray. If still poor without suppressor, then take action out of stock and check for barrel connection looseness. Then shine light down barrel to see if it has crisp consistent rifling. If you have a doubt, take the projectile out of a 22 cartridge, press it into bore, and push it down barrel with cleaning rod, feeling for consistent pressure and loose spots. This called slugging the bore and any looseness indicates uneven rifling. GC Norincos had this problem occasionally.

Originally Posted by MB

Have you tried grouping without the suppressor? If not, might be worth a go.

I had one that shot pretty well then suddenly didnt.
It was a decades old aluminium thread muzzle forward model. Must have come loose in the threads. No obvious baffle strike. Got a new MAE suppressor ( stainless ) and straight away it was back to shooting well. No rethreading crowning bedding scoping or anything. Just the suppressor had done its dash.

I would upgrade the scope and rings first.

The time and money you put into your existing rifle could go a ways to buying something new, if you are unable to fettle it yourself.

It's mostly been said above, but in order, i would:
Check the crown.
Clean the bore to as-new shiney
check supressor for baffle strike, then, assuming it's the package-deal one, throw it in the scrap metal bin and put a decent one on, or shoot without.
Check the barrel is free-floated and that action screws are tight.
Also see if you can't beg or borrow a different scope and rings to try.

He mentions an upgrade in op....I take it hes looking at a new rifle?

He'd save money just buying a different JW15.
I just bought one second hand for $280 and it's shooting 4cm 5 shot groups at 50m, and I know that's the clown behind the scope and not the rifle.

Identify your target beyond all doubt because you never miss (right?) and I'll be missed.

Originally Posted by Dmnc6

Hey everyone,

Currently I've got a Norinco JW-15, which after looking around here seems to be a bit of luck of the draw for accuracy.
After trying to sight it in myself, and a couple of the ol' boys trying to sight it in it seems like I've got myself a bit of a dud.

Currently it's just for some possums, but have been to a range and would be keen to be able to do some target shooting on the side as well

Went to the local H&F which said CZ457 and the Bergara's would be the best one's to look at.
So any deal's around for those (don't have access to the Buy/Sell section yet)? Or any other rifles else I should look at?

Cheers

dont turn your nose up at some of the earlier rifles Remington made a model called a 541 damn good bolt action .22 so are their field master pumps life time rifles

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

dont turn your nose up at some of the earlier rifles Remington made a model called a 541 damn good bolt action .22 so are their field master pumps life time rifles

This. Ive gone back to the older stuff, you can get a good deal on a quality rifle and scope if you take your time and get a bit of a feel for what your lookin at...an old brno was the go to for long enough still know plenty of older guys and this is the only 22 they have ever owned bought when they were young guys starting out..

blip....... the old bruno and the new norinco are that close to the same rifle its not funny...the norinco is pretty close to direct copy..its only the fit n finish ,the amount of care put into it that is different...Ive got both a bruno #2 and a norinco and actually prefer the norinco.