Thread: 22 Upgrade

With minimal TLC/mods, most Norincos can shoot well -despite- the cheap manufacture. The one I did for my nephew outshot his father's deluxe CZ.

@mudgripz Comments?

@MB can you meet up with this fella and sort it with him???

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

@MB can you meet up with this fella and sort it with him???

No problem if he's reasonably close (Whangarei) and wants some help.

#7 try it without suppressor
#8 try it with subsonic ammunition.
#9 borrow a scope for day.....as long as its reliable it will do...

10-15cm at 25 yards...does it actually have ANY rifling in barrel??? dont laugh,there were a few 7.62x39mm floating around without any....

So maybe hasn't been threaded true to the bore, seen plenty of them with off center bores...

There was a thread on here a while back, pointing out the difference between JW 15s, relating to the year of manufacture. Check it out. Mine has a black synthetic stock and is superbly accurate.

Have had/polished about 20 JW15s for myself and others. Worst of them shot slightly over 1" groups at 50m, best is mate's one at 0.3s. Almost all shot sub half inch at best and averaged close to that - after barrel chop to 16" and recrown. Sold one recent JW project on this forum about 6 weeks ago - that was typical with a best of 0.43" at 50m, and average (3 groups) of 0.54". Accurate wee shooters and yes a match for CZ on range.

GC ones were often very poor - looked like they were made from a junk parts bin with sometimes poor barrel connection, poor rifling etc. Also Polytech branded JWs poor. I prefer older ones - both wood and synthetic shoot fine.

With this JW, I think Micky's checklist spot on - as is Makros' comment. Run through his checklist. It does sound however like clipping - bullet hitting suppressor on exit. Would account for big spray. If still poor without suppressor, then take action out of stock and check for barrel connection looseness. Then shine light down barrel to see if it has crisp consistent rifling. If you have a doubt, take the projectile out of a 22 cartridge, press it into bore, and push it down barrel with cleaning rod, feeling for consistent pressure and loose spots. This called slugging the bore and any looseness indicates uneven rifling. GC Norincos had this problem occasionally.

I would upgrade the scope and rings first.

The time and money you put into your existing rifle could go a ways to buying something new, if you are unable to fettle it yourself.

It's mostly been said above, but in order, i would:
Check the crown.
Clean the bore to as-new shiney
check supressor for baffle strike, then, assuming it's the package-deal one, throw it in the scrap metal bin and put a decent one on, or shoot without.
Check the barrel is free-floated and that action screws are tight.
Also see if you can't beg or borrow a different scope and rings to try.

He mentions an upgrade in op....I take it hes looking at a new rifle?

He'd save money just buying a different JW15.
I just bought one second hand for $280 and it's shooting 4cm 5 shot groups at 50m, and I know that's the clown behind the scope and not the rifle.

Identify your target beyond all doubt because you never miss (right?) and I'll be missed.

Originally Posted by Dmnc6

Hey everyone,

Currently I've got a Norinco JW-15, which after looking around here seems to be a bit of luck of the draw for accuracy.
After trying to sight it in myself, and a couple of the ol' boys trying to sight it in it seems like I've got myself a bit of a dud.

Currently it's just for some possums, but have been to a range and would be keen to be able to do some target shooting on the side as well

Went to the local H&F which said CZ457 and the Bergara's would be the best one's to look at.
So any deal's around for those (don't have access to the Buy/Sell section yet)? Or any other rifles else I should look at?

Cheers

dont turn your nose up at some of the earlier rifles Remington made a model called a 541 damn good bolt action .22 so are their field master pumps life time rifles

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

dont turn your nose up at some of the earlier rifles Remington made a model called a 541 damn good bolt action .22 so are their field master pumps life time rifles

This. Ive gone back to the older stuff, you can get a good deal on a quality rifle and scope if you take your time and get a bit of a feel for what your lookin at...an old brno was the go to for long enough still know plenty of older guys and this is the only 22 they have ever owned bought when they were young guys starting out..

blip....... the old bruno and the new norinco are that close to the same rifle its not funny...the norinco is pretty close to direct copy..its only the fit n finish ,the amount of care put into it that is different...Ive got both a bruno #2 and a norinco and actually prefer the norinco.

I wouldn't bother spending heaps more on a 22LR to pop a few bunnies. Not necessary.

We had a team meeting couple nights ago - boys who've been together for 13-17 years. All of them have shot umpteen thousand bunnies (plus the deer, wallabies etc), and only one uses expensive brand equipment - and then occasionally. All of them tend to go for their proven efficient range/field 22s - and by heavens they know how to use them. Amongst them a number of Marlins, JWs, Savage, Zastava, Winny 69A, early CZ etc - none of them expensive - but all range tuned to really shoot. And importantly, also ok for the bumps that years shooting from truck, quad, wandering rocks/matagouri etc will bring. You will not outshoot these little rifles out to 100m by buying a $1000 hunter 22LR.

Thoroughly agree with comments above on older model 22s also - the Remingtons eg 511,512, 541, 550 Speedmaster etc - and Sportco, some Winchesters, Lithgow model 12 - lots of them. Always room in my gunsafe for them. Just be cautious re parts supply esp if using them alot. If people have a real hankering to buy a more expensive hunter 22 for themselves - that's entirely fine too. 100%. But... one thing I've learned from long decades.. for hunter rifles, price is not necessarily an indication of accuracy, of performance in the field.

Norinco JW15/27s can be very effective - deadly to 100. JW15 modelled on Brno One, and a little polishing brings out that Brno DNA. Just doing another mudz JW15 project. This is a very tidy 30 year old wooded JW15. I'll polish up bolt/trigger etc, range test/tune it thoroughly, and I expect it'll prove another sub half inch shooter (at best). At $300-350 or so it will most certainly match any $800-1000 22s in the field - and at fraction of cost.

All good fun