Thread: 223 build - or "how I got up-sold"

After selling a Zastava 223 (perfectly fine, but I wanted to try something else) I acquired a Remmy 700 SS, just a standard sporter with a 1:12 barrel, looked to be in pretty good nick so I just shot it. Groups were "OK", considering the ammo I was using and I sorta put it aside over Christmas pending getting it going a bit better.

So dragged it back out today and after a bit of thinking decided that before load development it could do with a barrel chop to 485mm (just a figure plucked out of studying a few of the "inch by inch" barrel shortening tests on the interweb). Marched off to Gunsmith!!

Well things went pear shaped real quick - before he had it in his hands he was scheming his "up-sell" and bugger me he had me by the goolies!! He'd straight away spotted that it had a bulged barrel. And damn he was right!! Just a tiniest wee one that you could just feel, not visible from looking down the bore.

While he was giving me the big sales talk on new barrel options I was scheming "avoidance" and I was able to put him on the back foot by declaring that I had a old single shot target 223 with an "as new" 1:8 Krieger barrel - so it was back home to fetch it.

Back at the shop "Yes its a beauty, yes it has heaps of reinforce to play with, and yes, throating it for the big pile of Sierra 80gn HPBT's I have would be fine". At this point I was feeling like I'd sorta come out on top of the "up-sell" thing, but he had one more trick up his sleeve.

"You can't possibly put a nice barrel like that into a standard remmy action - it needs blueprinted". Well of-course he was right so the $80 threading job had been "up-sold" to a $500 plus one!! All great fun.

So I'm going to finish up with a Remmy 700 "varmint" rifle with a 24" barrel that I know shoots well (better than well actually).

Anybody wanna buy a SS Remmy 700 223 barrel (with a wee bulge haha)??

you SOLD a zastava .223......... shucks.......
but then Ive just sold my zastava .308 so guess cant talk.
hope you have much fun times with the new rifle.

Better spent on a nice gun than a not nice woman.

Originally Posted by muzza

why does someone always mention the pm?

There is always one " special needs " guy on board

You have a perfectly good 38-303 that would do nicely
But you have to have a modern fangled .223

And @Tentman you never did tell me what the 375 2 1/2" flanged nitro express was ?

The suspense is killing me !
Slight exaggeration but
Actually picking up new old gun tomorrow that will have even you ( gun whore) jealous

And @Tentman when you were being " up sold " you still had the option of " on selling " which might have been another option

This thread is the on sell - doesn't everybody want a 223 barrel with a bulge?? AB was evasive on the 375 2 1/2, I'll try him again when he's recovered from his Christmas purchase (which even surprised me!!)

Where did you get the rem 700 from Trademe, Facebook or a shop? Interesting the first owner didn't pick it up or intentionally not mentioned.

Came via TM, several knowledgeable people (myself not included haha!) handled the rifle and didn't detect the bulge, so I doubt the seller knew about it . . . funny thing is with things like that, once you see it - it stands out like dogs nuts!

About half way - its a 24" barrel. Bloody funny cause it didn't shoot that badly, using the Lapua 223 FMJ ammo (with the FMJ pulled and replaced) I have lots of of was grouping round the 1" mark

Tentman, I’d question if you really need to blue print the action. I’ve never had accuracy issues by not doing it when upgrading to match barrels.

You could have him check the alignment before you drop the coin?

Originally Posted by Dicko

Tentman, I’d question if you really need to blue print the action. I’ve never had accuracy issues by not doing it when upgrading to match barrels.

You could have him check the alignment before you drop the coin?

Where's the fun in that ?

[QUOTE=Tentman;1105742]After selling a Zastava 223 (perfectly fine, but I wanted to try something else) I acquired a Remmy 700 SS, just a standard sporter with a 1:12 barrel, looked to be in pretty good nick so I just shot it. Groups were "OK", considering the ammo I was using and I sorta put it aside over Christmas pending getting it going a bit better.

So dragged it back out today and after a bit of thinking decided that before load development it could do with a barrel chop to 485mm (just a figure plucked out of studying a few of the "inch by inch" barrel shortening tests on the interweb). Marched off to Gunsmith!!

Well things went pear shaped real quick - before he had it in his hands he was scheming his "up-sell" and bugger me he had me by the goolies!! He'd straight away spotted that it had a bulged barrel. And damn he was right!! Just a tiniest wee one that you could just feel, not visible from looking down the bore.

While he was giving me the big sales talk on new barrel options I was scheming "avoidance" and I was able to put him on the back foot by declaring that I had a old single shot target 223 with an "as new" 1:8 Krieger barrel - so it was back home to fetch it.

Back at the shop "Yes its a beauty, yes it has heaps of reinforce to play with, and yes, throating it for the big pile of Sierra 80gn HPBT's I have would be fine". At this point I was feeling like I'd sorta come out on top of the "up-sell" thing, but he had one more trick up his sleeve.

"You can't possibly put a nice barrel like that into a standard remmy action - it needs blueprinted". Well of-course he was right so the $80 threading job had been "up-sold" to a $500 plus one!! All great fun.

So I'm going to finish up with a Remmy 700 "varmint" rifle with a 24" barrel that I know shoots well (better than well actually).

Anybody wanna buy a SS Remmy 700 223 barrel (with a wee bulge haha)??[/QUOTE

Haha classic gun story , love it

[QUOTE=Lucky;1107687]

Originally Posted by Tentman

After selling a Zastava 223 (perfectly fine, but I wanted to try something else) I acquired a Remmy 700 SS, just a standard sporter with a 1:12 barrel, looked to be in pretty good nick so I just shot it. Groups were "OK", considering the ammo I was using and I sorta put it aside over Christmas pending getting it going a bit better.

So dragged it back out today and after a bit of thinking decided that before load development it could do with a barrel chop to 485mm (just a figure plucked out of studying a few of the "inch by inch" barrel shortening tests on the interweb). Marched off to Gunsmith!!

Well things went pear shaped real quick - before he had it in his hands he was scheming his "up-sell" and bugger me he had me by the goolies!! He'd straight away spotted that it had a bulged barrel. And damn he was right!! Just a tiniest wee one that you could just feel, not visible from looking down the bore.

While he was giving me the big sales talk on new barrel options I was scheming "avoidance" and I was able to put him on the back foot by declaring that I had a old single shot target 223 with an "as new" 1:8 Krieger barrel - so it was back home to fetch it.

Back at the shop "Yes its a beauty, yes it has heaps of reinforce to play with, and yes, throating it for the big pile of Sierra 80gn HPBT's I have would be fine". At this point I was feeling like I'd sorta come out on top of the "up-sell" thing, but he had one more trick up his sleeve.

"You can't possibly put a nice barrel like that into a standard remmy action - it needs blueprinted". Well of-course he was right so the $80 threading job had been "up-sold" to a $500 plus one!! All great fun.

So I'm going to finish up with a Remmy 700 "varmint" rifle with a 24" barrel that I know shoots well (better than well actually).

Anybody wanna buy a SS Remmy 700 223 barrel (with a wee bulge haha)??[/QUOTE

Haha classic gun story , love it

Ah shit buggered that up some how , great story @tentmen , I have gone down that road a few times myself