Thread: .270 is the best caliber ever made.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

One you can poke into its lungs. It's been said wap are no harder to kill than reds.vitals are bigger but still similar amount of skin n bone protecting them. So,not a varmits pill and as long as you be aware of range,not something super hard either.hard for close,softer for further.

so the 95 deer season I currently use would be suitable then? So far thats reliably knocked over everything I've shot

Originally Posted by GSP HUNTER

95 sst, nosler ballistic tip have a good rep on here, I'm a big federal fusion or... just get the OG elk slayer. A 270

I've got Red Setter Elk Hunter boots...so reckon that's covered

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

One you can poke into its lungs. It's been said wap are no harder to kill than reds.vitals are bigger but still similar amount of skin n bone protecting them. So,not a varmits pill and as long as you be aware of range,not something super hard either.hard for close,softer for further.

Can you explain the hard for close, soft for further.....I'm intrigued

There is some bad advice on here. Yep you could kill a wap or sambar with a 243. But you will not break it down and it's more likely to give you a tracking job or loose it. I've shot both and they are hard to put down fast. Where do you draw the line? Bulls? Elephants? Size does matter.

Originally Posted by 308

You drive a Landrover and you're calling someone a poof?

When you're in a hole the first rule is - stop digging

Geez, I didn't realize the ol poo70 was such a contentious subject.
It was a joke, no one really thinks cartridge selection makes you gay, straight or otherwise.

Other than 6.5 manbun obviously.

Its always been the same old story from the 270 fans ...
If you use 3 shots with a .270 it was "because the animal was tough".
If you use 3 shots with a smaller caliber it was because "you needed something bigger".

There is no winning.

Originally Posted by Beetroot

Geez, I didn't realize the ol poo70 was such a contentious subject.
It was a joke, no one really thinks cartridge selection makes you gay, straight or otherwise.

Other than 6.5 manbun obviously.

I guess the contention is cartridge choice is a consequence of what you are rather than it making you into something. Guess the idea is correct, just that the cause-effect analysis is faulty. Samurai wore manbuns (and topknots), French Cavaliers tended to long locks. The sexual proclivities of neither were discernable from their attire or style. A wise person would be careful what they asserted to either. But definitely a 6.5 manbun gives the show away. Unless its with a 6.5 Swede in which case its the real thing and totally admirable.

Right,AGAIN. The hard and soft...stout and fragibles... At fast velocity/up close a projectile is under one hell of a lot of pressure. Eg with rounded figures for ease of maths. 1:12" twist at 3000fps = 3000 revaluations per second x60 seconds in a minute = 180,000rpm so the projectile it trying to rip itself apart.think swinging by ket of water etc. when projectiles touches something it will start to deform...IF balance of speed,twist rate and hardness are good.you get lovely picture book mushroom formed as projectiles opens up,expanding frontal area to make even more mess,but stays together enough to plough through bone etc. BUT there are variables to consider. Some folks use soft expandy,explody projectiles to great effect.USUALLY they get poked into softer,more vulnerable bits,head/neck or slipped into lungs BEHIND shoulder bones. In theory up close these super soft projectiles can fail to penetrate if hit big bones.in theory. Sometimes they do,sometimes they don't. Shooting out long or at slow speed you NEED soft n expandy to get any worthwhile expansion as the previously mentioned forces trying to rip pill apart are less. Projectiles manufacturers are stuck between a rock nhard place. Too soft and will explode at high velocity,too hard and acts like a fmj and pencils through unless hits big solid resistance/bone. Back when most folks used 303brit n fmj ammo smacking animal through shoulder bones was far n away the best shot to put animal down fast,broken one means going nowhere and bits of ragged stuff into lungs as well as projectiles whistling through.

Taken to extreme.the 220 swift showed up problems with soft projectiles...they never made it to target,they ripped apart,vaporised in mid air!!! Lots of varmits type projectiles will do weird things if touch as little as a twig...that's not failure,it's what designed to do,break up fast inside groundhog,rabbit. Fmj or solids complete opposite,designed to plough through anything Intact. For deer sized game......oh hang on there are Samberg n wapity Vs Roe n fallow hinds. So it's all a balancing act. You try to match your load to size of game you intend to shoot plus pick shot to best utilise whatever you have on hand to use. I believe one of the few moose ever shot in NZ was with Weebly revolver??? Guarantee that wasn't aimed into shoulder bones. Lungs or behind ear would be my pick. Yes our man is correct to ANCHOR on the spot you simply cannot beat shear horsepower to smash bone. That's why I like to break one or both shoulders with .270 ,if however I had loaded a 100-110 grn varmits projectile,past experience has shown me folly of shoulder aim,it would be behind ear,upper neck.or good broadside slip in behind foreleg or not at all.

Honest statement here. I cant ever recall needing 3 shots when my placement has been good. I have fired the odd second shot for insurance though.

Me also, apart from the odd couple of air swings and perhaps a finisher on occasion.


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You .270 guys are amazing.

Same reply as when shooting my 6.5s, 7s and .30s. No bias here.


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I'm pretty sure the animal biology of deer hasn't changed much from the invention of the 303, 308, 270, so on and so on, that have taken many deer and continue to do so. Use whatever works for you. I'll leave it at that.