Thread: .270 is the best caliber ever made.

Rumour has all 270s sold and ammo running out the door.
Come on guys the best comment I saw year ago was would you go to the top of the hill bend over and tell them to let strip.
It will do the job like a myriad of of other calibres will do.

I'm hunting muzzle loader season in the states right now. A few days back I put a 50 cal projectile through the chest of a white tail buck at 9 meters. It broke the inside shoulder. Ripped through the center of the lungs and ended up under the skin on the far side. It took us an hour to track that deer and find it. It had gone 120 meters.
It would not have done so, from my experience, with a modern center fire. Mt host said the performance was the norm.
There are two factors you need. Bullet weight suitable to the animal you are hunting and velocity. At one extreme the muzzle loader has weight. But not velocity.
There is a pretty good bracket of calibers that offer the right combination of VxW. The bigger the animal and it's just wise to move up the W while retaining the V.
In open country you might be able to afford less W if you can see where the animal will fall.
The 270 offers good velocity at the upper end. And reasonable weights. If I were hunting elk or sambar all the time though I would use a 7mag or 300 mag. It just makes sense. Yes the 243 might and has killed Elk. But it will run further and you have more chance of not finding it.
I'm very careful. 2 days ago I passed up a very big buck at 50 yards because he only offered risky shot options. That's because I recognize the limitations of whatever weapon I use. And work within them.
I wish there was more recognition of that, rather than pushing of boundaries.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

Ta

Thanks for the concise real world explanation

My T3 just back from DPT, will be interesting to see if I will lose much velocity with the 21 inch barrel and if I get an improvement in accuracy, although it was fine before the chop. 145 gr ELDX over 57 grs Superformance, previous velocity 3050 fps max load so approach with caution.
Will try it out tomorrow hopefully.

I don't expect you'll lose much. I was getting 2920 fps with 145gr ELDX and 57grs of Superformance from my 19 inch T3.

Got out for a shot this morning, wasn’t to far out which was good. My average for the145 gr ELDXis now 3000 fps so lost a little but accuracy is still as it was. Now it’s suppressed I will take it for walks more often.

Originally Posted by rimubay

I don't expect you'll lose much. I was getting 2920 fps with 145gr ELDX and 57grs of Superformance from my 19 inch T3.

You are getting good speed for that length barrel, my mates son down your way only got about 2860 fps from memory with that same load. Currently he is using same weight of powder but RL 19 for 2872 fps. Some barrels are slower than others.

There is nothing out of fashion about a skinny 130 grain 7mm bullet at 3100 fps.

If we invented it today it would be a wonder hit. Marketing would call it the .277 Precision Annihilator. Delta Force would adopt it as a sniper round. Long range people would talk confidently about its performance at 800 metres with NASA-made bullets, and how many clicks are required for a stag or a hind. Kiwi blokes would cut the barrels down to 14 inches and post on forums about how it actually adds velocity to their loads. Other people would make statements on the internet about how you can recover all your lost velocity from your short barrel by just using a faster powder. Probably AP70N or Unique. Suppressors would go on, making the short barrels longer again but at the same time making rifles lighter and handier, and making the deer run towards them and not away, as if the shot makes their ears fall off.

Originally Posted by John Duxbury

There is nothing out of fashion about a skinny 130 grain 7mm bullet at 3100 fps.

If we invented it today it would be a wonder hit. Marketing would call it the .277 Precision Annihilator. Delta Force would adopt it as a sniper round. Long range people would talk confidently about its performance at 800 metres with NASA-made bullets, and how many clicks are required for a stag or a hind. Kiwi blokes would cut the barrels down to 14 inches and post on forums about how it actually adds velocity to their loads. Other people would make statements on the internet about how you can recover all your lost velocity from your short barrel by just using a faster powder. Probably AP70N or Unique. Suppressors would go on, making the short barrels longer again but at the same time making rifles lighter and handier, and making the deer run towards them and not away, as if the shot makes their ears fall off.

Acerbic sod today aren't we......... can't fault a goddamn word of it! Needs posted on some of the yank sites, plenty of clicks then, just on all the unfortunate mouses, not stags and hinds......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA92Pde5qUs