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    Push back a bit is really all they do. The word recoil only means something when you use a rifle that starts with .4 and is used on the worlds toughest, the ones that want to eat you or stomp you into the dirt.
    Velocity is thrilling,but diameter does the real killing.

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    Giving away 90+ 30-06 brass. See post in Pay IT Forward. PM if interested.

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    For me, residing in the U.S. the chief advantage of the 06 is the unequaled availability of ammo with the 308 win and the 270 win trailing it, but not by much.

    Whatever the 06 can do the 308 certainly comes within 90% plus or minus and 300 yds. In no animal will know the difference. The 308 win is a bit milder to shoot which is a plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    They all go bang and push back a bit.?

    there's a noticeable difference in the magnitude of the push

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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    They all go bang and push back a bit.?
    only the dirty one's bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimp View Post
    You must have fired the worlds hottest .223 loads if they feel in the same ballpark as anything on an -08 or -06 case
    I recon noise is the biggest component of "felt"recoil.
    Once its ducking loud its all the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    I recon noise is the biggest component of "felt"recoil.
    Once its ducking loud its all the same.
    Rifle Recoil Table

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    The nastiest recoiling rifle I have fired is a mod 7 308, its quite sharp and aggressive. The 9.3x62 is more of a long punch, 300wsm is quite tam. 338edge is also more of a slow push but does have a good muzzle break on
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    I had one, went bang and stuff fell over.
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    Of all my rifles 2 get my notice the 30:06 Ai with 208 Amax and the 8x57 with the 196 s/b, so if anyone thinks they are like shooting a .223 or .243 they're either having a laugh, weigh about 400kg or are total dickwads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nor-west View Post
    Of all my rifles 2 get my notice the 30:06 Ai with 208 Amax and the 8x57 with the 196 s/b, so if anyone thinks they are like shooting a .223 or .243 they're either having a laugh, weigh about 400kg or are total dickwads.
    Most factory 06 loads available in nz are 150-180gr
    Most factory 08 loads in nz are 150-180gr
    Maybe a 150 fps in between them

    Not enough to notice for me anyway.

    Like i said non magnum.
    A handloaded 30old6AI is basicly magnum performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nor-west View Post
    Of all my rifles 2 get my notice the 30:06 Ai with 208 Amax and the 8x57 with the 196 s/b, so if anyone thinks they are like shooting a .223 or .243 they're either having a laugh, weigh about 400kg or are total dickwads.
    How much do those rifles weigh and how is the stock shape on them?
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    It's funny watching someone defend an indefensible position

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    My old majestic 308 that had 3 or 4 inches off the barrel was loud as Fuck and light but due to the stock shape it would rotate up around the shoulder making a second shot very difficult.
    Anyone who had a go with it said "Fuck that boots!" but it didn't at all(boot that is), it was loud and muzzle jumped.
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    308Win One chambering to rule them all.

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    I don't have a 30-06. I don't shoot anything that needs a bullet over 150gr, and using a 30-06 over a 308 for 150gr is pretty pointless - long action and a lot of extra bang for what, 80fps.

    Haven't used a 30-06 to compare felt recoil, but I'd be confident in picking the difference between a 308 and 270 blindfold and I don't think the 30-06 would be any less. Anyone suggesting a 223 is anything remotely similar must be having a laugh.

    Nothing against people who do use them though, whatever floats your boat. If I was buying a new deer rifle these days I'd probably go for something 6.5 or 7mm anyway.
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