Thread: 30 06

Originally Posted by GravelBen

I don't have a 30-06. I don't shoot anything that needs a bullet over 150gr, and using a 30-06 over a 308 for 150gr is pretty pointless - long action and a lot of extra bang for what, 80fps.

Nothing against people who do use them though, whatever floats your boat. If I was buying a new deer rifle these days I'd probably go for something 6.5 or 7mm anyway.

Not too sure about your figures GB, pretty sure i can handload my 06 to damn near 3k or at leat 2950 with a 150gr, whereas i could just touch 2720 ish with my 308. not knocking the 308,the threads about the 06.
factory 2920 xp win with the 06, but who knows about my chrony

Originally Posted by jakewire

Not too sure about your figures GB, pretty sure i can handload my 06 to damn near 3k or at leat 2950 with a 150gr, whereas i could just touch 2720 ish with my 308. not knocking the 308,the threads about the 06.
factory 2920 xp win with the 06, but who knows about my chrony

That was just from 5 minutes looking up Hornady and Winchester factory figures.

Above are my brothers shooting some long range plates with my 1903 30-06.
60 grains of AR2209 pushes a 150 gr boatail out of this rifle at 3000 fps.

Good cartridge that will deal to anything in NZ. Generally feeds quite nicely too, being long and tapered/small neck.

More versatile than .270 due to bullet choice.
Recoil can be hard but anything can be gotten used to with practise or a suppressor.

Popular too, pretty much any sports shop will usually have a packet of rounds on the shelf.

So yeah I'm a fan.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Originally Posted by FRST

Above are my brothers shooting some long range plates with my 1903 30-06.

HSF! Is that a real, actual, genuine Unertl 8x minus it's recoil spring on an 03A1?

Originally Posted by ishoot10s

HSF! Is that a real, actual, genuine Unertl 8x minus it's recoil spring on an 03A1?

It's actually a 10x which is externally identical. The recoil spring was removed as per USMC ww2 specs as they found sand would jam the recoil spring. You just have to pull the scope back after each shot!

Originally Posted by FRST

It's actually a 10x which is externally identical. The recoil spring was removed as per USMC ww2 specs as they found sand would jam the recoil spring. You just have to pull the scope back after each shot!

Fantastic historic setup. Great to see it gets out for a blast now and then, well done!

Nice old rifle

I had a Vanguard in BC stock and thought it was softer shooting that the Vanguard 308 in plastic stock
Think the cheek piece was key.
Only sold it because I picked up a MKV in 270
I like the 30-06

Only other 06 I have is a M1 Garand

A cursory glance at my reloading manual indicates that you may have confused max loads with starting loads, to only get 2720 with a 150 from .308

Well you'd do best to try in the real world.
A cursory glance at my proven data says with 46.7gr of 2208 produces groups in the 1/3 range for 3 shots at a average out of a 22' barrel at 2720.

Originally Posted by jakewire

Well you'd do best to try in the real world.
A cursory glance at my proven data says with 46.7gr of 2208 produces groups in the 1/3 range for 3 shots at a average out of a 22' barrel at 2720.

I thought you must have cut it in half like everyone seems to do

My old one liked 168s at 2750fps.

I would have got some 3006 dies and had a play with the old mans one but it shoots blue box fed really well and he only uses probably 3rounds a year these days.

Anyone played with 130 Barnes in a 06 or 06ai ?
3300-3400fps ?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

I thought you must have cut it in half like everyone seems to do

My old one liked 168s at 2750fps.

I would have got some 3006 dies and had a play with the old mans one but it shoots blue box fed really well and he only uses probably 3rounds a year these days.

Anyone played with 130 Barnes in a 06 or 06ai ?
3300-3400fps ?

Well I can't understand how you can get that much out of the 308 with a 22" barrel with the 168gr VC
my data indicates the above mentioned 150 gr load, and less powder gave me less velocity
Rifle was a Winchester Featherweight.

I think I need a faster chrony.

Chornyed the 06 just before xmas again , average 2916

Originally Posted by jakewire

Well I can't understand how you can get that much out of the 308 with a 22" barrel with the 168gr VC
my data indicates the above mentioned 150 gr load, and less powder gave me less velocity
Rifle was a Winchester Featherweight.

I think I need a faster chrony.

Chornyed the 06 just before xmas again , average 2916

I get the same velo (2750) with 168 Amax and a 20" barrel, 130gn TTSX gives up 3100 outa the same 308, 3006 is only more usefull than a 308 when your need is 180gn and above.

I can lend you a die set if you want.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

I thought you must have cut it in half like everyone seems to do

My old one liked 168s at 2750fps.

I would have got some 3006 dies and had a play with the old mans one but it shoots blue box fed really well and he only uses probably 3rounds a year these days.

Anyone played with 130 Barnes in a 06 or 06ai ?
3300-3400fps ?

I've always had good results from my 3006. It is a pretty light rifle and not plesant to shoot off the bench, but can't say I've ever noticed any recoil lining up on an animal. From memory nothing has ever taken more than a couple of steps.
I do always enjoy reading the banter of cartridge X vs cartridge Y, however if I was starting from scratch again I would probably go with a more efficient cartridge. The 06s authority cannot really be argued with though for NZ class animals.

I agree with VC, recoil is much more about rifle weight, projectile weight and stock design, than caliber specifically. I have rifles that were painful to shoot, once they have a limbsaver on, no worries...

It is also a bit of a "cultural" thing. Where I grew up your first gun is a 22, my second was a 303 or 308 (early teens), and then 30-06 when you are "grown up"...