Thread: 300 Blackout

I have seen a left hand zastava in 7.62x39 on a youtube video. They exist

Unfortunately finding one in NZ is likely to be like finding an unobtainium mine.

This is a good video on 300 BLK. I'm tossing and turning whether to get one in an AR15...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgKjbySsAik

Originally Posted by Loyal2no1

This is a good video on 300 BLK. I'm tossing and turning whether to get one in an AR15...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgKjbySsAik

Do it! Just finished first round of supersonic load development in mine:
Hornady 125 sst's over lilgun, good velocity and very quiet for supers


not bad for a 4 power scope and 8lb trigger

Originally Posted by specweapon

Doesn't do anything a 308 or 7.62x39 doesn't do already, but for the $800 the Ruger ranch rifles were it didn't matter cos they were cheap enough

@specweapon hey mate where have you seen those rifles for that much?

Originally Posted by Timmay

@specweapon hey mate where have you seen those rifles for that much?

I haven't seen them that cheap in a while.
Ruger American 300 Blackout Rifle Suppressed | Trade Me
Ruger American Ranch 300 Blackout | Trade Me

If I didn't have a 12" barrelled 300 blackout I would choose a 16" fast twist 308win.
It took a bit sorting but I am happy shooting out to 250m with subs and 300m supers, had a 10 shot 5" group on steel last week with a 28 degree incline and 15 mph wind, no worrys with first round hit at 387m using hand load 208gr A-Max and Lehigh 194gr ME subs.

Here my 50th deer with the 300 blackout and the help of the hound.

Getting back to the original post. I am in a similar situation and requirements but instead of X39 or the AAC I went for something that's a classic; the 30-30. Using 160gr monoflexs your good to 200 and using a traditional round nose or flat nose type well you can't go past it for a bush thumper! Ordered a Marlin 336 SS through Willsoutfitters.

Originally Posted by tikka

I haven't seen them that cheap in a while.
Ruger American 300 Blackout Rifle Suppressed | Trade Me
Ruger American Ranch 300 Blackout | Trade Me

If I didn't have a 12" barrelled 300 blackout I would choose a 16" fast twist 308win.
It took a bit sorting but I am happy shooting out to 250m with subs and 300m supers, had a 10 shot 5" group on steel last week with a 28 degree incline and 15 mph wind, no worrys with first round hit at 387m using hand load 208gr A-Max and Lehigh 194gr ME subs.

Here my 50th deer with the 300 blackout and the help of the hound.

Nice one mate.

I've seen those two, I think $1000 is a bit steep for what it is, would rather look second hand for a better rifle Tbh. The attraction is the small case so looking at 300 or 357/44mag etc.

I have just bought a .300 Blk Ruger American Ranch rifle, hand-polished the bolt to remove the 'whistle', given it a trigger job, and fitted an old but tidy 3x Weaver. I will make an overbarrel suppressor and use it as a dedicated subsonic hunting rifle (out to 150 metres). I intend to work up some loads with 220 grain RN as they should have better terminal performance than SMK's, A-max, etc. I have even considered making a hollow-point swage to improve the performance without losing any bullet weight. I will provide updates and pictures as things progress. 40 years ago, when I was playing around with subsonic .308 loads and suppressor designs, the 220 grain RN's worked very well.

Originally Posted by Timmay

@specweapon hey mate where have you seen those rifles for that much?

Local gunshop, they were $820 on the shelf but there were 3 shipments before that sold out before they arrived. Mine was in the 3rd order and was a little over $700 so was worth the coin, at $900ish they have gone up to there may be better alternatives.

I'll see what the local shelf price is at the moment

Originally Posted by gundoc

I have just bought a .300 Blk Ruger American Ranch rifle, hand-polished the bolt to remove the 'whistle', given it a trigger job, and fitted an old but tidy 3x Weaver. I will make an overbarrel suppressor and use it as a dedicated subsonic hunting rifle (out to 150 metres). I intend to work up some loads with 220 grain RN as they should have better terminal performance than SMK's, A-max, etc. I have even considered making a hollow-point swage to improve the performance without losing any bullet weight. I will provide updates and pictures as things progress. 40 years ago, when I was playing around with subsonic .308 loads and suppressor designs, the 220 grain RN's worked very well.

I don't think your 220 gr is going to expand at all to do the damage. They might just tumble a bit with a bit of luck if hitting a bone .
Extra weight is of no use as a150 gr cast hollow point goes through an animal quite easily.anymore weight is just waited energy and prone to some spectacular ricochets.
I have tried the 170 gr hornady flat base flat point and made the jig to hollow point the tip and barely saw a difference damagewise on goats compared to the same bullet left original.
The 150 gr cast lead hollow point definitely does the damage and kill animal more humanely and quickly.

And the Lehigh seem to be doing the trick as well.

Originally Posted by Friwi

I don't think your 220 gr is going to expand at all to do the damage. They might just tumble a bit with a bit of luck if hitting a bone .
Extra weight is of no use as a150 gr cast hollow point goes through an animal quite easily.anymore weight is just waited energy and prone to some spectacular ricochets.
I have tried the 170 gr hornady flat base flat point and made the jig to hollow point the tip and barely saw a difference damagewise on goats compared to the same bullet left original.
The 150 gr cast lead hollow point definitely does the damage and kill animal more humanely and quickly.

And the Lehigh seem to be doing the trick as well.

The 150gr cast do it a hell of alot cheaper too. WIsh they would cycle in the ar....

the lehigh's seem to work the best on game off everything I have tried subsonic in 300blk. pitty the cost of them makes practice etc overly expensive

Originally Posted by res

the lehigh's seem to work the best on game off everything I have tried subsonic in 300blk. pitty the cost of them makes practice etc overly expensive

Same here the lehigh's are the best killers I have used and very expensive on target trajectory validation. It's a shame we don't have more hunting subsonic projectiles to choose from like the guys do in the USA.

i gave up on trying to get subsonic cast bullets to expand, they will but its erratic, better to go for a large flatpoint with carefull bullet placement . . . if i come across a must have animal, a soft lead bullet at 1600fps absolutely nails them.

as far as bullet weight goes i have found the lighter 150-170s bullets do about as well in my tests for penetration as the heavier 200s . . . but that was at or inside 100yds . . once the range moves out i prefer the longer heavier for calibre bullets for the longer shots out to +200yd on animals, the further you go out the more pronounced the advantage to the heavy weights, at these lower power levels any advantage is worth having, i want over penetration, a thru n thru shot taking out the clockwork is my ideal . . . for range work i have found with my 2 sub rifles the heavys are a little more consistant / accurate ( wind permitting ) out to 300-400yds on steel plates at around 1.5MOA shooting over my day bag . . your rifles mybe different

i have no experience with the exotic and expensive varietys especially made for subs . . but they sure look the business

This was recovered from a sheep shot at 40 metres .308 8.0 grains Trail Boss 151HP recovered weight 112.4 Grains,
Have another one recovered from a Sika hind at 50 metres recovered weight 143.0 grains looks the same, expansion .430"