Thread: .300 WinMag Break vs Suppressor

Originally Posted by GravelBen

I'm not sure why you'd want a muzzle break?

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No a muzzle "break" doesn't look so flash, a muzzle "brake" on the other hand....

How did that happened GravelBen?

I have been wearing ear plugs every working day for the last 20 years, I damaged my hearing as a kid playing with explosives of various types and suffer tinia to varying degrees.
I work in an environment where I am exposed to over limit over time(forget the numbers and ratios) and far over peak for moment for hearing safe.
Apparently accounting for normal age degradation my hearing is improving not worsening.
Due to the type of work I do I will not wear ear muffs but I will wear someone elses designed for shooting on occasion.

Just a pic I found on the net, supposedly someone was dumb enough to fire it with a bore-sight stuck in it.

Originally Posted by GravelBen

I'm not sure why you'd want a muzzle break?

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Looks like a "Grapple Break", or multi purpose "anchor brake" or possibly the "change your undies " brake

Originally Posted by Mauser308

Yeah. But, a piss-poor ear plug used properly is still a piss-poor plug which doesn't offer the required level of protection. Most plugs are grade 3 or grade 4 which isn't enough reduction for a break.

I know where you're coming from, but that really needed clarification as some plugs don't stop you going deaf. Some plugs are sized in such a way that if someone with the 'wrong' sized ears uses them they will actually make you go deaf - the smaller types can be dangerous and can be fitted in such a way as to damage the ear drum or outer ear or cause an inner ear (balance) issue or a show stopping migraine headache...

Best possible course of action is get your ears fitted for custom plugs or get an expert to fit you up for the right product. Sounds a bit wanky and official but I've seen some guys in my time in industry get severely inconvenienced or injured by using bad ear protection.

I don't know where you get your information but there're some wild statements in there.

Firstly, a --well-fitting-- grade 4 earplug is good enough for damn near anything. They must be fully inserted, ie not half hanging out. Earplugs have traditionally been down-graded in rating in NZ to reflect the anatomical variability in performance.

As for plugs damaging your ear drum or causing an inner ear balance problem, that is plain wrong. No commercial plugs are small enough in diameter and long enough to reach the tympanic membrane. Short of perforating your drum by some means other than plugs, you will never get a balance issues with using plugs with small arms. Large artillery is another matter.

You did give some reasonable advice in the last paragraph


6x47 (Clinical audiologist)

This is an old pic but looks like the brake helped hold it together.



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That brake didn't break!

Thats a AI AW50 rifle , in 50 BMG calibre , and the reason it split , was it had been cleaned after a few rounds , and the cloth cleaning patch was still in the bore .
The shooter was using the high explosive/ incendary raufous ammo , this has a small HE compotent ,and the impact fuse is sensitive enough to activate when fired at the thin skin of aircraft aluminium , so it denotated in the barrel .

Originally Posted by ChrisF

Thats a AI AW50 rifle , in 50 BMG calibre , and the reason it split , was it had been cleaned after a few rounds , and the cloth cleaning patch was still in the bore .
The shooter was using the high explosive/ incendary raufous ammo , this has a small HE compotent ,and the impact fuse is sensitive enough to activate when fired at the thin skin of aircraft aluminium , so it denotated in the barrel .

I thought it was a AI 338 lap?
Any how who would have one of those pos AI things I heard there's plastic in the bolt somewhere?


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Actually , you are right , thier is plastic in that one , and it shows its a 50 BMG , the AI AW50 , has 2x red plastic dust covers , look like big round red dots , on either side of the action body , keeps sand and dirt out of the 2 action gas vent ports at about the 2 & 10 oclock position .
I think also one in the bolt body as well , so IF it does blow UP , the explosion goes in controlled directions .

Originally Posted by BRADS

If you going down the suppressor road get one of these
S Series SL7 sound suppressor | Ase Utra
If your going to get a brake try either of these.
T2 Brake
D.F Maisey Gunsmithing Services, Tauranga, Smith & Wessen Guns, Rifles, Gunsmithing, Custom made Rifles
Both have there purpose and really comes down to what "you" want.


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The S7 is x2 the cost of a NZ suppressor, so its still worth it?

And twice the weight ;-)

Originally Posted by Friwi

And twice the weight ;-)

It's a magnum can mate, same weight as Nz 338 cans last time I checked.
I'll tell you if it's worth it soon, but from what I here more than worth it, but I'm not paying twice the price
http://hardyrifleengineering.co.nz/s...ppressors.html


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Double post

That blaser is getting heavier by the minute