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    For ChrisF: I have not heard of many failures of the mag suppressors from dpt with a 300win mag so far.
    But as you say it is your choice to go with other materials.

    For distant stalker: usually it should not take you more than one or two rounds to kill a deer,we can't really call that overheating a suppressor ,can we? :-) ( punt intended)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friwi View Post
    For ChrisF: I have not heard of many failures of the mag suppressors from dpt with a 300win mag so far.
    But as you say it is your choice to go with other materials.

    For distant stalker: usually it should not take you more than one or two rounds to kill a deer,we can't really call that overheating a suppressor ,can we? :-) ( punt intended)
    I think you'll find that Chris was talking bigger than 300wm, as was I, talked to dpt about my 300 blaser, it is to big for one of his cans unfortunately as that was my first choice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Friwi View Post
    For ChrisF: I have not heard of many failures of the mag suppressors from dpt with a 300win mag so far.
    But as you say it is your choice to go with other materials.

    For distant stalker: usually it should not take you more than one or two rounds to kill a deer,we can't really call that overheating a suppressor ,can we? :-) ( punt intended)
    You have not heard of "many"? I havnt heard of any...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friwi View Post
    For ChrisF: I have not heard of many failures of the mag suppressors from dpt with a 300win mag so far.
    But as you say it is your choice to go with other materials.

    For distant stalker: usually it should not take you more than one or two rounds to kill a deer,we can't really call that overheating a suppressor ,can we? :-) ( punt intended)
    Dam haven't been on here for a while. Shooting long range takes practice, practice on range is where you put more rounds down the tube and have to wait to cool down. Gets old quickly.
    Also shooting tahr etc you can end up with a few shots off quickly. Probably not enough to get suppressor to temps that mirage be too much but up in the cold it doesn't take much for this to happen... Finally the weight of magnum suppressors is excessive for the way I use mine. Would rather carry a pair of earmuffs/plugs
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    I agree. On magnum rifles especially for long range work fit a brake. You have plenty time to put ear plugs or muffs on usually.
    In my experience suppressors only do a half ass job of reducing recoil and muzzle flip on a magnum rifle. Good on 223s and medium calibres though for bush hunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by distant stalker View Post
    Also shooting tahr etc you can end up with a few shots off quickly. Probably not enough to get suppressor to temps that mirage be too much but up in the cold it doesn't take much for this to happen...

    You wait for the next tahr trip then lol. Big sock on it tm keep the mirage away 😂


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    I have my non magnum rifles supressed. Magnums have brakes. Had suppressed mag and got sick of dragging big suppressor around and it getting hot so quickly. For 0-600 a short suppressed 284 would work for you, I would consider a 300 more of a 400-1k rifle and set it up for those purposes more specifically. This is me though and everyone does things differently. Really what I'm attempting to provide you is an excuse to buy two rifle and set them up very differently rather than being stuck with the one...
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    The Alloy can made by AI in the UK is rated for their 338LM cal rifle , its all aluminium , BUT mounts over a steel muzzle brake that acts as the 1st 2 baffles when the can is over top of it , I have used it , and its OK , no buggles etc , but have not put much thru the can , talking to guys in the UK/soldiers , they say the can is toast in several hundred rds , ie the internal baffles shot out , not the supprssor tube blown .
    A alloy can with out steel blast baffles will wear out even quicker .
    BT in europe use steel and SS in their 338LM cans , Canadians use a large TI welded can , anything less will not last very long , I have a ATEC strippable can , its 1st 2 baffles are SS and then aluminium , and even at the 3rd baffle spacing on a 308win cal rifle , its getting gas cut in less than 300rds .

    All will wear , BUT some materails much quicker than others , ME I like my stuff to last more than a couple hundred rds , I like thousands of rds before replacement .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisF View Post
    The Alloy can made by AI in the UK is rated for their 338LM cal rifle , its all aluminium , BUT mounts over a steel muzzle brake that acts as the 1st 2 baffles when the can is over top of it , I have used it , and its OK , no buggles etc , but have not put much thru the can , talking to guys in the UK/soldiers , they say the can is toast in several hundred rds , ie the internal baffles shot out , not the supprssor tube blown .
    A alloy can with out steel blast baffles will wear out even quicker .
    BT in europe use steel and SS in their 338LM cans , Canadians use a large TI welded can , anything less will not last very long , I have a ATEC strippable can , its 1st 2 baffles are SS and then aluminium , and even at the 3rd baffle spacing on a 308win cal rifle , its getting gas cut in less than 300rds .

    All will wear , BUT some materails much quicker than others , ME I like my stuff to last more than a couple hundred rds , I like thousands of rds before replacement .
    The DPT suppressor has replaceable baffles so if they do wear, its only. $45 to replace each one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPT View Post
    The DPT suppressor has replaceable baffles so if they do wear, its only. $45 to replace each one.
    Me and my mates bought DPT suppressors because of the LIFETIME WARRANTY and because they are cheap. If the baffles are blasted out in only 200-300 rounds, then i would consider that premature product failure, and would expect the baffles to be replaced under warranty for FREE for my lifetime or as long as i own the suppressor as that is what was advertised. I will not be paying $45 ever time a baffle needs to be replaced, especially if its only a done few hundred rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaimai Views View Post
    Me and my mates bought DPT suppressors because of the LIFETIME WARRANTY and because they are cheap. If the baffles are blasted out in only 200-300 rounds, then i would consider that premature product failure, and would expect the baffles to be replaced under warranty for FREE for my lifetime or as long as i own the suppressor as that is what was advertised. I will not be paying $45 ever time a baffle needs to be replaced, especially if its only a done few hundred rounds.
    Baffles worn out in 200 rounds is premature failure and will be replaced as long as the suppressor is cared for as per instructions, if someone is going to put 200 rounds out of a 300 win mag through it in 20minutes then don't be surprised if the baffles don't last so long as the suppressor was not designed for that, if a 10 inch 243 is going to be shot through the suppressor don't expect the baffles to last as long as they should. The baffles have roughly a 2000 round lifespan and are not covered by a lifetime warranty but will be covered if they fail prematurely. They do wear out and this is pointed out in the instructions.

    If someone does get carried away with the suppressor and does wear out a baffle or two then its quite cheap to replace them, where other suppressors that you cant pull apart have to be fully replaced.

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    Short barrels (bush pigs), lots of powder (magnums) coupled with plenty of rounds in a short space of time, create heat & lots of it, alloy suppressors really don't appreciate that sort of abuse & won't last as long.

    The only way around that is using a harder material in the suppressor & more volume, which usually means bigger & heavier, exactly the opposite what the general market demands...

    A suppressor hates high gas pressure, velocity & volume, a brake loves them.
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    I want to see a suppressor worn out in a couple hundred rounds, not doubting just never seen any photos
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