Thread: 308 vs 7mm08 all rounder?

I wouldn't be too concerned about which of those two cals more than which rifle feels, handles and you shoot better with.
They are not different enough in the real world to notice any huge practical difference caliber wise.

Far out Hamish, now tell me how you carried both of those out.
Guessing there is two/three other guys on the other side of the camera

Originally Posted by jakewire

Far out Hamish, now tell me how you carried both of those out.
Guessing there is two/three other guys on the other side of the camera

One on each shoulder and gun under my arm lol

Nah just did back steaks mate....easy as

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So shot both rifles today. Both comfortably shoot sub MOA. The 7mm08 was a recent acquisition simply to get the scope (vx5hd). The plan was to flick the 7mm off and put the vx5 on the bushpig to have reliable dialing for longer shots. However I do wonder if the 7mm with its 20" barrel maybe slightly more versatile alrounder....

Anyone managed to crack 2700fps with 150gr projectile out of a 20" barrel in 7mm08? As was suggested earlier RE17 might do it?

Originally Posted by HNTMAD

708 softer flatter shooting with a bit more projectile choice. 140gr Berger vld good up close and out to 500m. Chopped to 18inch

Hamish

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Hahahahaa Fuk me Mish Mish what high grade cocane are you snorting thinking an 18" 7-08 is good to 560 yards, maybe for a hunting god like yourself but in the real crackerjack world of the standard NZ hunter it's a 350 yard gun bro

Originally Posted by Philipo

Hahahahaa Fuk me Mish Mish what high grade cocane are you snorting thinking an 18" 7-08 is good to 560 yards, maybe for a hunting god like yourself but in the real crackerjack world of the standard NZ hunter it's a 350 yard gun bro

Go back to the shadows young man lol.


There is my drop chart, using 2209, I would say 2700 is doable

Hamish

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My Tikka 7mm08 had a 20” barrel and shot the 150 ELD-X at 2700fps. It was bloody accurate too. Was fine in the bush and stretched its legs on a couple of occasions with a VX5 on top.

Originally Posted by HNTMAD

Go back to the shadows young man lol.


There is my drop chart, using 2209, I would say 2700 is doable

Hamish

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Is that with 140 Berger? Using CFE223 my 18" A7 is 2800fps with them and groups very well so they can perform alright. Ive only ever shot one deer with that combo though, preferring the 120NBT at 3K (for no good reason though). Ive shot deer out to 525 yds with the 120 (did Craig tell you that James shot one at 391 yds with it on Monday night with me - he got 2 with it).

@stagstalker what was the load details for your eld-x load if you dont mind me asking?

I reloaded for a mates 708 and managed 2660 with 2206h and 162eldx from an 18" bbl. Was warming up but was accurate and good out a long way

I think the question is answered by what manufacturers produce as standard. there is a reason that most factory rifles don't come with 16" barrels, that is more specialized to short range country where lengh of rifle is more important. Your 20" 708 is an all rounder, I have shortened mine to be a short range gun as I have long range rifle.

@Mauser308 the 7mm BC are much better than the 308. It is BC that effects wind drift, not bullet weight. A 160 gr 7mm will have a similar BC to a 200gr 308 and will have similar wind drift.

@William that is a very valid point. I guess by reloading we can stretch the envelope somewhat however.

We can argue this one 'til the cows come home, then leave again.

FWIW @Hunty1, the best thing I ever did to my Tikka .308 was cut it from 22" to 18", suppress it, and go from 150gr to 165gr. It shot good before, but now its a handier carbine with heavier hitting killing power out to whatever you're confident shooting. It's knocked over a few reds between 300-350m, and has taken over now as the goto rifle for hill country deer. Thing is, the hill country borders the forest...

What I like about the .308 Win the most is that I can carry the normal 165gr ammo for standard 100-400m shooting, duck into the bush for some stealthy action with 151gr subs if the opportunity arises, and if I get onto a batchelor mob of reds in the woods and a chance for a really heavy, close range red stag, slip in a 180gr RN ProHunter... And the BDC reticle takes care of the rest.

Its such a versatile cartridge, the .308 Winchester.

@Flyblown makes alot of sense. Never have run 165's in my 308 but have taken game out to 350m and punched paper to about 450 with 150gr (was still sub MOA at 450).

Curious as to your reasoning to go 18" rather than the often touted magic 16"? You want the slightly higher MV or find the balance better at 18"?