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    Quote Originally Posted by Survy View Post
    So can anyone shed light on what the factory iron sights are set at for the rossi 50 or 100 yards or further ?
    my 20" rossi 44 mag seems about spot on at 50m
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    Quote Originally Posted by Survy View Post
    So can anyone shed light on what the factory iron sights are set at for the rossi 50 or 100 yards or further ?
    The Rossi Lever actions have adjustable sights, (the same as the Winchester 1892 it is copied from). The rear sight controls elevation and the front sight is driftable left and right for windage. (Or you can drift the rear sight if you want to.)
    Depending on your load you can sight it in for 25 metres or 300 metres.


    (The qualification about this, is that the 16 inch barrels have the same sights as the 20' inch carbines; so sometimes, depending on your load, the rifle will shoot low, and you wont be able to lift the rear sight high enough to zero for 100 metres. Again, this dpends on your load, and the calibre.

    The solutions for this may be described thusly:
    Put a new shorter front sight on (Note that Rossi sight dovetails are larger than standard and you may have to do some shimming to make it fit)
    File the front sight down, thereby bringing the point of impact up
    Have the rifle drilled and tapped for a received peep sight, made by Williams or Lyman. (The sight you want is the same one that fits the Winchester 94)
    Buy a 20' inch barrelled carbine in the first place)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlsen Highway View Post
    The Rossi Lever actions have adjustable sights, (the same as the Winchester 1892 it is copied from). The rear sight controls elevation and the front sight is driftable left and right for windage. (Or you can drift the rear sight if you want to.)
    Depending on your load you can sight it in for 25 metres or 300 metres.


    (The qualification about this, is that the 16 inch barrels have the same sights as the 20' inch carbines; so sometimes, depending on your load, the rifle will shoot low, and you wont be able to lift the rear sight high enough to zero for 100 metres. Again, this dpends on your load, and the calibre.

    The solutions for this may be described thusly:
    Put a new shorter front sight on (Note that Rossi sight dovetails are larger than standard and you may have to do some shimming to make it fit)
    File the front sight down, thereby bringing the point of impact up
    Have the rifle drilled and tapped for a received peep sight, made by Williams or Lyman. (The sight you want is the same one that fits the Winchester 94)
    Buy a 20' inch barrelled carbine in the first place)
    The sights on the Rossi 92’s are more in line with a Winchester 1892 rifle, as the Winchester 1892 carbines had a ladder rear sight as opposed to the standard ramp style rear sight. If Rossi would adopt a flip up ladder and get rid of the safety, I’d be all over one. It feels a bit sacrilegious taking an antique Winchester into the bush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Survy View Post
    So can anyone shed light on what the factory iron sights are set at for the rossi 50 or 100 yards or further ?
    now that depends on a few things.......
    #1 where on the ramp do you have v set
    #2 where in the v do YOU sit the bead....eg I put it in the bottom others put it level with top...my way shoots higher but restricts view a little
    #3 what load you have in her.....eg a sub will be up to 12" below a supersonic load and a really hot load could be say 6" higher than another not so hot one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    now that depends on a few things.......
    #1 where on the ramp do you have v set
    #2 where in the v do YOU sit the bead....eg I put it in the bottom others put it level with top...my way shoots higher but restricts view a little
    #3 what load you have in her.....eg a sub will be up to 12" below a supersonic load and a really hot load could be say 6" higher than another not so hot one.
    They are not "set" at any range. The sights are adjustable.
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    I wouldnt want someone starting out to go chasing reds with a 22 hornet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill999 View Post
    I wouldnt want someone starting out to go chasing reds with a 22 hornet
    Would be heaps!

    My mate is a professional hunter now and shot his first dozen deer with a 22WMR!!!

    Thanks for all the advice. Going to order a new marlin, either a Trapper in 44mag or a SBL in 45-70.

    Can’t bloody decide!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 300_BLK View Post
    Would be heaps! My mate is a professional hunter now and shot his first dozen deer with a 22WMR!!!
    People still do it. No point elaborating but just last year Nov on a trip I wrote up on here, I watched a highly competent young person head shooting fallow and goats with her new Magnum Research .22 WMR semi. 40gr jacketed lead hollow points. Yes I was a bit sniffy at first but kept it to myself... are you sure???... but knowing these people I thought it was unlikely to be a shitshow... It was actually very impressive. Surgical even.
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    Thanks for the info Carlsen, the 16” is going to be good for banging around the bush.
    I’ll see how she goes once I run a selection of ammo through it.
    But you have given me some ideas of what to do if I need to start fine tuning.
    Grouchy Smurf had it right all along...

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    IF you have a blade for a front sight (and not a bead), the easiest solution is just to file it down a bit.

    I have had three Rossi 92' s over the years and I think they are great. The one I have in .44-40 is one of my pets. I would like a 16" one, in .44 Magnum or .45 colt. They are great for messing around in the bush, light and small enough you don't notice them, and enough for a deer at any distance you could hit one with the open sights. In the old days the Winchester 92 carbine, was just known as a "bush carbine". They were all over NZ and Australia.

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    Who imports these now? Ampro used to be the distributor, but they don't list them on their website anymore,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlsen Highway View Post
    Who imports these now? Ampro used to be the distributor, but they don't list them on their website anymore,
    I think they still do, their website changed quickly after that day last month.
    As I was checking their arrival dates, then next minute gone.
    But looks like they arrived as shelves at Reloaders and Serious have them.
    Grouchy Smurf had it right all along...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Survy View Post
    I think they still do, their website changed quickly after that day last month.
    As I was checking their arrival dates, then next minute gone.
    But looks like they arrived as shelves at Reloaders and Serious have them.

    I wondered about that. the ones with the safety I thought were coming from Gun City, which was bringing them in from United States (who get the safety ones for lawyer reasons) Whereas Ampro were bringing them from Rossi in Brazil, with no safety. I will ring them on Friday.
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    sorry C.H. I didint see you had answered sight question before I answered it....
    had a fella today tell me he didnt know how to sight in a scope sighted .22lr............thought we all learnt that before we hit primary school,seems not.

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    @hotbarrels, could you pretty please do me a few closer pictures of the can, threading, mag shortening etc? Don't mind setting up email via PM or what have you? It appears to be an eccentric can?
    Identify your target beyond all doubt

 

 

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