Thread: 6.5 Creed V 7-08

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I agree and I think in a lot of cases there are the big three in NZ that do most of the game taking , 270 , 7.08 , 308. My local H&F shop said those are the big three sellers weather new or used.
I don't see the gun industry producing anything revolutionary in 40 plus over years, it's just marketing old products that have been tweaked and supposedly improved. You can spend a lot of time and money believing the hype and marketing only to achieve the same result as you basically got with the old faithful.
The old calibers like 270 , 30-06, 6.5 swede , 7 mm mauser kill as well today as they did 100 yrs ago.
From the gun industries point of view I guess it's about the next best thing and the bottom line is it's all about the bottom line. The Creedmore is a classic case, just a 6.5 swede with a tit job and lippie.....really nothing new. Improved ??

As for 270 owners..................

I agree and I think in a lot of cases there are the big three in NZ that do most of the game taking , 270 , 7.08 , 308. My local H&F shop said those are the big three sellers weather new or used.
I don't see the gun industry producing anything revolutionary in 40 plus over years, it's just marketing old products that have been tweaked and supposedly improved. You can spend a lot of time and money believing the hype and marketing only to achieve the same result as you basically got with the old faithful.
The old calibers like 270 , 30-06, 6.5 swede , 7 mm mauser kill as well today as they did 100 yrs ago.
From the gun industries point of view I guess it's about the next best thing and the bottom line is it's all about the bottom line. The Creedmore is a classic case, just a 6.5 swede with a tit job and lippie.....really nothing new. Improved ??

As for 270 owners..................

6.5 Creedmoor was specifically developed for precision shooting and has been around since 2007. It was designed to get the best possible case life, accuracy and ballistic efficiency out of a .308 sized action. A hunting cartridge was never at the forefront of it's creation, it just works really well as one.

Originally Posted by viper

....The Creedmore is a classic case, just a 6.5 swede with a tit job and lippie.....really nothing new. Improved?? ..................

Well, the CM is improved in that it provides the masses with well priced factory ammo, longer bullet seating for reloaders than the .260 and relatively inexpensive rifles that shoot very accurately.

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Originally Posted by 10-Ring

Well, the CM is improved in that it provides the masses with well priced factory ammo, longer bullet seating for reloaders than the .260 and relatively inexpensive rifles that shoot very accurately.

Yeah thats the thing the creedmore has managed to do that neither the swede nor the 260 has, and that is capture the attention of the greater american public. Having a efficient short action 6.5 with actual decent factory ammo options is a legitimate good thing I reckon.

In 10 years time the old heads will be talking about how there's nothing wrong with the 6.5 cm and why are people bothering to invent new calibers like the 277 hayabusa turbo.

Here's my take on it.
If we compare the 308, 7mm08 and 6.5CM or 260.
The 308 hits harder at normal hunting ranges, the 6.5 has a flatter trajectory and less wind drift, the 7mm08 sits right in the middle.
Choose your poison based on that.

Question, can a 260 be reamed to CM, on a mod 7 action. Not that im making the move but curious.

The Cm case is shorter than a 260 so the chamber end of the barrel would have to be cut, barrel re-threaded then reamed

Originally Posted by Nick-D

Yeah thats the thing the creedmore has managed to do that neither the swede nor the 260 has, and that is capture the attention of the greater american public

Capturing the attention of the greater american public isn't a great endorsement ...

Originally Posted by Gibo

Question, can a 260 be reamed to CM, on a mod 7 action. Not that im making the move but curious.

Your barrel is short enough now @Gibo You would need to chop at least an inch to rechamber correctly. You could pump up what you have, as @Uplandstalker did

It's re-inventing the wheel, it's tit's and lippy.
Sure it doe's what it is designed for but it's an improvement and the gun makers and ammo factories love it as it energises the market and pushes sales.
Like I said the bottom line is the bottom line.
I am not hating on the CM, it's a fine round no doubt.

Originally Posted by Mathias

Your barrel is short enough now @Gibo You would need to chop at least an inch to rechamber correctly. You could pump up what you have, as @Uplandstalker did

Hey @Gibo - I took a 260Rem Model 7 and poked @Mathias 260 30 degree (like a 6.5 CM but about 3mm longer case body) reamer down it. Set the whole thing back an entire neck length in the process. So now have this in a 19.5" barrel and have been shooting it for a could of years now and love it!

Originally Posted by Shamus

Capturing the attention of the greater american public isn't a great endorsement ...

Perhaps not, but it does mean we get a variety of easily accesable quality factory ammo options. This is a first for any of the 6.5's. Big win for the average shooter imo.

Anyone who has spent time behind a 260, 6.5 cm or Swede knows just how good a medium power 6.5 is, and know we have a universally adopted one.

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Originally Posted by Uplandstalker

Hey @Gibo - I took a 260Rem Model 7 and poked @Mathias 260 30 degree (like a 6.5 CM but about 3mm longer case body) reamer down it. Set the whole thing back an entire neck length in the process. So now have this in a 19.5" barrel and have been shooting it for a could of years now and love it!

I just hate the mag box length of the mod 7

You can replace the bottom metal and use AI mags in a Model 7. I just received my PT&G bottom metal. This means I'll be shooting a Model 7 at the Mountain Challenge in Wanaka come March.