75/15/10 black powder matters
sounds like you might just be wearing blinkers...read his comment again...... it applies to ANY cartridge/calibre from .22lr up to .50bmg you should use appropriate projectile at appropriate range for appropriately sized animal inside appropriate range
inside 300 yards MOST will get job done without too much fuss...stretch barrel/range and you better have your shit sorted....
75/15/10 black powder matters
260, 6.5Swede, 6.5 creed = all much the same, all much of a much & very capable of taking deer (reds) out 300-400 yards with the right projectiles. Longer range not so much , unless the Hunter/rifle are proven capable of precise shot placement.
Creedmore vs crudemoore ….I guess this is not “haters” of the cartridge per se, but more a reaction to the over-hyped Hornady marketing machine & some of the “fan boys” they seem to attract. The cartridge is good but it doesn’t offer much over the proven existing 6.5s.
The 6.5PRC is much the same, it doesn’t offer anything more than a 6.5x284.
From a commercial perspective Hornady are undoubtedly making a smart play & no doubt raking in good coin. New cartridges, new dies, new pills, etc.
But in most cases the performance “gains” are over-hyped.
Interestingly theres little to nothing in it. I think alot of people that hate on the creedmoor dont actually have any understanding of what it is or what its capable of.
6.5 Creedmoor with 143gr ELDX doing 2800fps has 1791ftlb / 2375fps @ 300yd & 1418ftlb / 2113fps @ 500yd
.270 Winchester with 145gr ELDX doing 2900fps has 1853ftlb / 2399fps @ 300yd & 1412ftlb / 2094fps @ 500yd.
Simply put, .270 has 62ftlb & 24fps on the creedmoor at 300yd & by 500yd, the creedmoor has actually overtaken the .270 in both speed & energy, all while using considerably less powder & less felt recoil.
A dig at .270? absolutely not. Just interesting to see how many people are stuck in their ways with some of the older calibres & refuse to accept that technology moves on and things can in fact be better than what they have used for some time. 6.5 Creedmoor is certainly not the be all and end all, but imo its better than alot give it credit for.
I will add this for the 6.5 crudmore lovers - old Barry would go into the hills with a Holland and Holland 7x57 open sights - mauser action - old craftmanship - subtly engraving maybe even my name on it - hand checkered - and be happy as a little sand boy - and you lot can use ya bloody tikkas in 6.5 crudmore
The issue is that the loading is biased the 270Win has another 10 grains of powder capacity and will push a Nosler 150 LRAB at over 3050 fps with Norma MRP or Re26. Which puts it up against 6.5 PRC or 7mmMag.
Hornady are good at pushing there new cartridges and loading the old ones down. My 2c
I have fun reading all these old boys, that obviously have never fired, let alone hunted with these modern cartridges add to conversations they obviously know little about, great Monday funnies
Learning to shoot your rifle is roughly 1000 times more important than what cartridge it is chambered for. Buy a tikka in Creedmoor, stop reading this shouting match and go learn to shoot it. It will kill just fine.
oh but he doesnt need to..you see he already has a rifle that shoots 0.4" groups and he only shoots to 350 yards....
oh thats right..it DID shoot .4 groups but now it wont...might be the scope,might be the bedding job he tried after spending $1300 on getting it accurised.....
thats like sending the car in for a tune up..then deciding to run it on diesel
but what do I know...Im after all just a .223 using "hero"....
75/15/10 black powder matters
ZeroPak Vacuum Sealers, Zero air Zero waste
Michael Roach
Re: Creedmoor or 6.5x55 with a shortish barrel?
hi Nathan, I am definately in agreement about the light calibre fad that seems to prevail in NZ, whenever someone tells me they use a 223 for everything I think ( how many animals have escaped wounded by you hero) To put it into perspective every animal I have shot in the last 2 years has been under 50kg. I havent had an opportunity to shoot a red deer because there are none on the properties I hunt on. IIf I had the chance to shoot a Red Stag I would think twice as I 100% retrieve any animal I shoot as a rule. If I was hunting thick bush I would carry my 45-70. What I mean by bush bashing is I am often on my hands and knees crawling through native scrub and gorse in order to either get close enough to make a shot or to have a back drop that doesnt include a farmhouse. I have already been stuck in a gorse bush with my 270 ( silently swearing haha)
75/15/10 black powder matters
Bookmarks