Thread: 7saum vs 280ai vs 7blaser vs?

Originally Posted by chainsaw

.. 280ai you’re getting very close to Rem Mag performance and a slightly better speed than SAUM. ..

I like and use the Ackley but I'd never say it'll match let alone outdo a SAUM for velocity, everything else being equal.

Yep I've had a 7mm saum and 280ai in the past. The 280ai would actually suit the blaser action better. But the 7mm blaser would make the most of it and still be tolerable without brake or suppressor...

Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

Yep I've had a 7mm saum and 280ai in the past. The 280ai would actually suit the blaser action better. But the 7mm blaser would make the most of it and still be tolerable without brake or suppressor...

I found the recoil of BM not too different to RM, slightly sharper but very manageable even without brake or suppressor.

I’ve run the numbers on all 3 and there isn’t much in it.
The Saum is definitely the most efficient by the numbers.
Less powder and mid velocity the (280ai 2840fps) (Saum 2850fps) (BlaserM 2885fps +10gr powder)
That’s the QL results and I checked a number of powder options.

Originally Posted by Noswal

I’ve run the numbers on all 3 and there isn’t much in it.
The Saum is definitely the most efficient by the numbers.
Less powder and mid velocity but the (280ai 2840fps) (Saum 2850fps) (BlaserM 2885fps +10gr powder)
That’s the QL results and I checked a number of powder options.

What pills and pressure

I ran a touch over standard length so seating them out will have an effect. The Blaser mag runs 5000 less pressure so 60??? The other two 65000. That’s just numbers though. @GWH has all the experience shooting the Saum.
180gr pills

Originally Posted by Noswal

I’ve run the numbers on all 3 and there isn’t much in it.
The Saum is definitely the most efficient by the numbers.
Less powder and mid velocity the (280ai 2840fps) (Saum 2850fps) (BlaserM 2885fps +10gr powder)
That’s the QL results and I checked a number of powder options.

The blaser takes about 4gns more my mate ran his at 21” for 2910ish from memory with 180s

Originally Posted by Kelton

The blaser takes about 4gns more my mate ran his at 21” for 2910ish from memory with 180s

That’s great. I’ve loaded for a Saum but not the others. These are simply the numbers I got from QL as I said. They’re not real. It’s a guide at best.
I didn’t have any actual inputs other than the generated program ones.

Originally Posted by Noswal

That’s great. I’ve loaded for a Saum but not the others. These are simply the numbers I got from QL as I said. They’re not real. It’s a guide at best.
I didn’t have any actual inputs other than the generated program ones.

I don’t actually have the saum real world data with the 180 so that 4 gns difference might grow not knowing where the saum would land with powder charge and 180s, it crossed my mind as soon as I wrote it that I’m comparing 168 real world saum for 180 real world blaser so apples for oranges I will certainly give it a go

Yip my blaser mag was 68gns of rl26 for 3060 with 180s so still very efficient my saum is 63.6 with 168s . Look at the 7LRM @PerazziSC3 brass should be easier to find and probably closest to the blaser and no longer doomed with average brass

Originally Posted by Kelton

Yip my blaser mag was 68gns of rl26 for 3060 with 180s so still very efficient my saum is 63.6 with 168s . Look at the 7LRM @PerazziSC3 brass should be easier to find and probably closest to the blaser and no longer doomed with average brass

7lrm brass seems just as impossible. But yes that was certainly another option

This is from my 280ai and 180eldms. Currently in the process of developing a 168grn load which is showing promise.

Now I'm thinking 6.5prc... brass easy to get, still packs enough punch to 600m

Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

Now I'm thinking 6.5prc... brass easy to get, still packs enough punch to 600m

Now your talking, your welcome to have a couple shots with my blaser one.

Originally Posted by outdoorlad

Now your talking, your welcome to have a couple shots with my blaser one.

What V0 are you getting with your PRC in the Blaser?
I'm getting a "faster" 6.5 again and it's 6.5x284 (have the dies) or 6.5 PRC (better future availability I suspect.

I take it no feeding issues (as is the Blaser standard)?