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    Yeah i'm not looking for light like a bolt action but light for an AR. I normally carry a Jungle Carbine 303 or Bergara 357mag so pretty similar weight to an AR. If there's anything better to buy under the $3 grand mark let me know and where to buy it

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    One of my 14.5" ARs weighs under 3kg with scope and backup sights. It was built using normal parts, if i wanted to spend more money on it I could get it lighter.

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    that's pretty light, is that loaded? suppressor?

    my 12.5" with pretty light components is 2.6kg bare, almost any scope + mount at all would put it over 3k, and that's without suppressor

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    No mag and no suppressor, and a light scope. Mid length gas system though.

    I'm just using a magpul moe hand guard so I could save some weight on that if I wanted, a low mass BCG would help and chopping the barrel to min length would all lower the weight. I've always wanted one of those polymer lowers but never found an exporter for them(except for the bushmaster carbon but those are too fragile).

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    Yeah I was pretty tempted by the Bushmaster carbon or the windham carbon, most of the reviews that say they're fragile are from crazy yanks shooting 600rnds a week, but hate the thought of having to be careful with it in the bush. If I was that desperate for light weight I'd just go for a bolt action.
    I'd rather just carry less water
    I do like the look of the CMMG mk4 recce that Digit is getting in soon

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    To swap over a AR15 that has a carbine stock to a Servo A cat stock I need to get a rifle buffer tube and machine up a spacer of the correct dimension? Any thing else?

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    Couple of ways to do it. You can use a rifle length buffer tube and rifle length buffer. Or use a rifle length buffer tube with a carbine buffer and a spacer to stop your gas key from smashing into the lower.

    You dont need a stock spacer with a rifle length tube and ace type stock if thats what you were reffering to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Towely View Post
    Couple of ways to do it. You can use a rifle length buffer tube and rifle length buffer. Or use a rifle length buffer tube with a carbine buffer and a spacer to stop your gas key from smashing into the lower.

    You dont need a stock spacer with a rifle length tube and ace type stock if thats what you were reffering to.
    Cheers just making sure I wasn't overlooking anything critical - have been looking at a nice AR with a carbine stock and just making sure what I need to do to make it A cat.

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    You're better off using a rifle buffer and spring. A spacer is a shitty fix.

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    Howdy all , some noobie owner questions. . . .

    Does a foregrip affect 'a' cat and make it 'e' cat ?

    Are the foregrips with the integral bipod useable/useful or crap ?

    Can you recommend any particular foregrip over others ? (seems there are shedloads to choose from)

    Also seems some are all plastic, and some have metal in them as well, good, bad ?

    Arguments for/against them ?

    Thanks in advance for any posts, and may the best man win the arguments

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbang View Post
    Does a foregrip affect 'a' cat and make it 'e' cat ?
    No.
    Quote Originally Posted by redbang View Post
    Are the foregrips with the integral bipod useable/useful or crap ?
    For people who like to use a foregrip and have a bipod when needed, they make a useful combination. Grippods are utilized heavily in the military. Like all things, some like them, some don't.
    Quote Originally Posted by redbang View Post
    Can you recommend any particular foregrip over others ? (seems there are shedloads to choose from)

    Also seems some are all plastic, and some have metal in them as well, good, bad ?

    Arguments for/against them ?
    It really depends on how the individual likes to utilize a foregrip. Some people like to hold them vertically, some just like to use them as a hand stop to aid in pulling the rifle into the shoulder and some just use them as a reference point.
    You will notice that most of the newer VFG (vertical fore grips) being released are compact variants, this is due to many shooters utilizing VFGs more these days as a hand stop.
    The Magpul AFG (angled fore grip) proved popular for a long time, but seems to be fading in popularity.
    Plastic or metal, makes little difference. What makes a difference is the weight. Any VFG from a major manufacturer should be strong enough for any civilian use.

    It really is user preference. Try as many styles that you can, try different hand positions, try holding it vertically, try using it as a hand stop.

    What do I run? After trying and using several types, I run my free float rails slick (other than a Magpul rail cover).

    What I always find funny though is when somebody puts a VFG on and then uses a magwell hold, but hey it's your rifle, run it the way that you like.

    The modularity of the AR platform is sometimes too tempting for people, and they put anything and everything on every available space.
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    Vertical grip makes the rifle cunty to sling and can get in the way. They are nice shooting off hand but are a PITA otherwise

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    Quick release available ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbang View Post
    Howdy all , some noobie owner questions. . . .
    Welcome to the "Dark Side" RB
    Life is natures way of keeping meat fresh

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    Heeeeelp, I'm trapped in here now

 

 

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