AR Thread

[Shamus]

Couple of ways to do it. You can use a rifle length buffer tube and rifle length buffer. Or use a rifle length buffer tube with a carbine buffer and a spacer to stop your gas key from smashing into the lower.

You dont need a stock spacer with a rifle length tube and ace type stock if thats what you were reffering to.

Cheers just making sure I wasn't overlooking anything critical - have been looking at a nice AR with a carbine stock and just making sure what I need to do to make it A cat.

[Banana]

You're better off using a rifle buffer and spring. A spacer is a shitty fix.

[redbang]

Howdy all , some noobie owner questions. . . .

Does a foregrip affect 'a' cat and make it 'e' cat ?

Are the foregrips with the integral bipod useable/useful or crap ?

Can you recommend any particular foregrip over others ? (seems there are shedloads to choose from)

Also seems some are all plastic, and some have metal in them as well, good, bad ?

Arguments for/against them ?

Thanks in advance for any posts, and may the best man win the arguments

[Koshogi]

Does a foregrip affect 'a' cat and make it 'e' cat ?

No.

Are the foregrips with the integral bipod useable/useful or crap ?

For people who like to use a foregrip and have a bipod when needed, they make a useful combination. Grippods are utilized heavily in the military. Like all things, some like them, some don't.

Can you recommend any particular foregrip over others ? (seems there are shedloads to choose from)

Also seems some are all plastic, and some have metal in them as well, good, bad ?

Arguments for/against them ?

It really depends on how the individual likes to utilize a foregrip. Some people like to hold them vertically, some just like to use them as a hand stop to aid in pulling the rifle into the shoulder and some just use them as a reference point.
You will notice that most of the newer VFG (vertical fore grips) being released are compact variants, this is due to many shooters utilizing VFGs more these days as a hand stop.
The Magpul AFG (angled fore grip) proved popular for a long time, but seems to be fading in popularity.
Plastic or metal, makes little difference. What makes a difference is the weight. Any VFG from a major manufacturer should be strong enough for any civilian use.

It really is user preference. Try as many styles that you can, try different hand positions, try holding it vertically, try using it as a hand stop.

What do I run? After trying and using several types, I run my free float rails slick (other than a Magpul rail cover).

What I always find funny though is when somebody puts a VFG on and then uses a magwell hold, but hey it's your rifle, run it the way that you like.

The modularity of the AR platform is sometimes too tempting for people, and they put anything and everything on every available space.

[Beavis]

Vertical grip makes the rifle cunty to sling and can get in the way. They are nice shooting off hand but are a PITA otherwise

[redbang]

Quick release available ?

[foxhound]

I have seen guns/ARs with all this shit and attachments on them, take them out hunting in bush an steep country for half a day and see what shit starts being taken off before the next hunt, I keep my AR with minimal shit on it. Slim and light free float handguard, sling mount and scope mount/scope combo. Ditched the muzzle break and just put a thread protector on it. Carry anything I need in a belt kit or in a daypack

[Koshogi]

Quick release available ?

Yes, Tangodown makes a QD VFG.

Not much point in my opinion. You can attach or remove a Magpul VFG in about 30 seconds.

[EK9132]

Some good input Koshogi! QD seems super popular for some odd reasons one thing I dont get it the need for QD scope mounts for 99% of civilian applications its not necessary but hey do what you want with your rifle if it works for you and you like it.On a side note I like my AFG2 over VFGs as it feels more natural for me.

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[hanse]

Saw a joker flogging a product by the name of "UNIGRIP" on the News this AM, at Feildays

He had taken a VFG, dubious even as a "insert favourite tacticool logo here" branded accessory, savaged on a couple of zip ties and was happy as Larry, even made the news. I nearly lost it laughing.

Good luck to him, I see it made a list of "innovations" that may win some financial backers to get the ideas of the ground.

Hope @gimp saw it, he loves VFG's

3.20 minutes in Lincoln University Tech Bytes - June 12, 2014 - Technology - Video - 3 News

[Koshogi]

I like QD scope mounts. It gives me the ability to change optics (Aimpoint, Eotech and 1-4 Vortex) depending on what I'm doing or what I want, quickly and without the need to re zero. I can also use them on different firearms by recording the differences in zero.

I understand your point though, a lot of users only have one optic and have no intent of changing it.

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[Towely]

I change out my acogs and long range scopes quite often between my rigs depending on what im doing. The QD system works well. Its fast and doesnt need to be zeroed again if taken off and then put back on. It takes 10 seconds and saves fucking around with hex nuts or screw drivers or those awful windage adjustable millet rings which should be put on once and never taken off again.

Foward grips, lasers, and torches might look cool if you are that way inclined but be realistic. Who really needs all that crap hanging off their rig? Every now and then a newby will turn up to a club shoot with all this shit hanging of their gun and by the next match its been binned. Think practical not tacticool and it wont cost your wallet as much.

[Koshogi]

Think practical not tacticool and it wont cost your wallet as much.

Excellent advice.

[P38]

Saw a joker flogging a product by the name of "UNIGRIP" on the News this AM, at Feildays

He had taken a VFG, dubious even as a "insert favourite tacticool logo here" branded accessory, savaged on a couple of zip ties and was happy as Larry, even made the news. I nearly lost it laughing.

Good luck to him, I see it made a list of "innovations" that may win some financial backers to get the ideas of the ground.

Hope @gimp saw it, he loves VFG's

3.20 minutes in Lincoln University Tech Bytes - June 12, 2014 - Technology - Video - 3 News

Fu*k Me

Is that what you call innovation and design these days.

Looks like something we used to make as 10 year olds.

I'm bloody sure it wont make that Ruger shoot any better, despite the claims made by the designer

Cheers
Pete

[P38]

I change out my acogs and long range scopes quite often between my rigs depending on what im doing. The QD system works well. Its fast and doesnt need to be zeroed again if taken off and then put back on. It takes 10 seconds and saves fucking around with hex nuts or screw drivers or those awful windage adjustable millet rings which should be put on once and never taken off again.

Foward grips, lasers, and torches might look cool if you are that way inclined but be realistic. Who really needs all that crap hanging off their rig? Every now and then a newby will turn up to a club shoot with all this shit hanging of their gun and by the next match its been binned. Think practical not tacticool and it wont cost your wallet as much.

Towley

Something like this



Cheers
Pete