Thread: Ar15 30 round mag

Hi all, Sorry to ask this as I know the answer is somewhere on here.

If I have an A cat licence and an AR15 can I use a 30 round mag at all until the law takes effect? Or do I have to use 7 round mags until i get my e endorsement?

Cheers

Assuming that your AR 15 is fitted with a free-standing pistol grip, this is something I've wondered myself but would be reluctant to test in court.

To use a 30 round mag your FIREARM must be registered as an MSSA. The E cat on your firearms license just means you can own MSSA's.

When you have your E cat you cannot use High capacity mags in your A cat firearms - only your E cat registered ones.

It is a bit confusing but get it wrong and get caught could mean you loose the lot.

Yeah it's all a bit unknown because the rule says you have grace till June for the pistol grip part but doesn't say anything about magazines.

That means you don't have to fit and A category compliant stock till June due to the law changes around MSSA stocks.

Originally Posted by FletchNZ

That means you don't have to fit and A category compliant stock till June due to the law changes around MSSA stocks.

Yep this and only this.

Originally Posted by rs200nz

Hi all, Sorry to ask this as I know the answer is somewhere on here.

If I have an A cat licence and an AR15 can I use a 30 round mag at all until the law takes effect? Or do I have to use 7 round mags until i get my e endorsement?

Cheers

Use only 7 rounders AND fit a compliant stock. Once you have your (whats now termed) "General E Endorsement" and also a "Specific E endorsement" for that particular rifle then g for your life with the 30's.


Big mags are overrated, get in the way and once you have done a couple of mag dumps you get bored wasting ammo. Even the 100 round drum mags are the same.

Cheers guys

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Originally Posted by rs200nz

Yeah it's all a bit unknown because the rule says you have grace till June for the pistol grip part but doesn't say anything about magazines.

There is nothing un-known about it. It has been the law since 1992 that you must have an endorsement specific to that semi-automatic rifle to use magazines with a capacity of more than 7 rounds (15 if .22). Nothing has changed there and to think that some grey period was created between 12/2013 and 06/2014 where the rules can be ignored is just wishful thinking on any bodies part!

Also be aware that if you have a semi-automatic rifle with a freestanding pistol grip it is a now a M.S.S.A and needs an endorsement for you to be in legal possession of it. If you currently own a rifle that prior to 10/12/2013 was considered a "sporting rifle" then you are in breach of the law. Just because the Police have said they won't prosecute until after 06/2014 doesn't mean that what you're doing isn't illegal. They can overlook that promise at any time they like as it has no legal standing in court.

Say you're out hunting with your AR-15 and a member of the public takes offense and calls the police, what you were doing may have been perfectly legal and if you had the correct stock the police would have had nothing on you. But if you still have your old pistol grip, then suddenly they have a charge of un-lawful possession of a M.S.S.A they can hit you with and it would stick in court!

Originally Posted by bas

There is nothing un-known about it. It has been the law since 1992 that you must have an endorsement specific to that semi-automatic rifle to use magazines with a capacity of more than 7 rounds (15 if .22). Nothing has changed there and to think that some grey period was created between 12/2013 and 06/2014 where the rules can be ignored is just wishful thinking on any bodies part!

Also be aware that if you have a semi-automatic rifle with a freestanding pistol grip it is a now a M.S.S.A and needs an endorsement for you to be in legal possession of it. If you currently own a rifle that prior to 10/12/2013 was considered a "sporting rifle" then you are in breach of the law. Just because the Police have said they won't prosecute until after 06/2014 doesn't mean that what you're doing isn't illegal. They can overlook that promise at any time they like as it has no legal standing in court.

Say you're out hunting with your AR-15 and a member of the public takes offense and calls the police, what you were doing may have been perfectly legal and if you had the correct stock the police would have had nothing on you. But if you still have your old pistol grip, then suddenly they have a charge of un-lawful possession of a M.S.S.A they can hit you with and it would stick in court!

Exactly

Yip ar15 with Spears stock and 7 round mag is good enough for me. Cheers for the answers.

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Yep those Spears stocks seem to be the business, I have one ordered.
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the E category in general is stupid and we should have it annulled regardless and should be able to buy MSSA rifles on an A licence

No, no and no. Too many fucktards shooting each other with A cats in the 1st place.

Nice thread dig from 2 years ago too