Thread: AR15 pending rule changes?

I agree gimp but to say nobody needs to hunt is a bit harsh.
Some people earn there living hunting. I don't but if i didn't hunt i would have been bankrupt a couple of times lost my house and had a young family starving.
Actually they would never starve. I would do ANYTHING to ensure my family is fed.

I don't own a semi but see there purpose weather its hunting or fun. I have nothing against them i would have some if i could afford them and the safe and a couple hundred rounds at the range.

Just thought it was a very dumb comment from an intelligent man.


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Hunting is basically a hobby for the vast majority of people, I was just making a generalisation to make a point.

Originally Posted by gimp

That's my point, there are all these people saying "well you shouldn't be allowed to own a semi auto because I don't think anyone needs one for hunting" as if "need" means a damn thing, and as if hunting is somehow so much more legitimate than "I want one and as a responsible licensed person there's no reason I shouldn't be allowed one to do whatever the hell I want with"

Pretty much this. I don't fancy the idea of having to justify every facet of what I want to own, the whole nanny state thing. A lot of things I own just cuz.

Originally Posted by gimp

That's my point, there are all these people saying "well you shouldn't be allowed to own a semi auto because I don't think anyone needs one for hunting" as if "need" means a damn thing, and as if hunting is somehow so much more legitimate than "I want one and as a responsible licensed person there's no reason I shouldn't be allowed one to do whatever the hell I want with"

Exactly. I don't own one, nor want one. But till my last breath I'll stick up for those that wish to own one. If the "need" is a requirement, then the Queen just needs to drive herself around in a mini.

Originally Posted by gadgetman

If the "need" is a requirement, then the Queen just needs to drive herself around in a mini.

And that would be the only time you d stand for as long as it was less than 5 mins to watch it go past

So confirm for E Cat change, would a AR15 holder need to only

1. Upgrade safe
2. Reconfirm why they need E cat

.?

No gun clubs you have to a member of etc to retain it ?

Originally Posted by Happy

And that would be the only time you d stand for as long as it was less than 5 mins to watch it go past

Being a BMW now you'd probably have to wait a while for the truck to collect it and take it to the agents. The breed generally doesn't have a good rep from what I've heard.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Price of the safe could put some off. Well me away.

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You could make your own, mate.

Originally Posted by Survy

So confirm for E Cat change, would a AR15 holder need to only

1. Upgrade safe
2. Reconfirm why they need E cat

.?

No gun clubs you have to a member of etc to retain it ?

If you already have something that they have reclassified as Ecat, then you only need to change to ecat due to the fact that they have changed the regs.

Last time there was issues, the Police did a free upgrade to Ecat. You didn't need different referees and reasons to change (apart from ownership already) and only upgraded security is needed.
Hopefully they'll do the same thing this time.

Originally Posted by Survy

So confirm for E Cat change, would a AR15 holder need to only

1. Upgrade safe
2. Reconfirm why they need E cat

.?

No gun clubs you have to a member of etc to retain it ?

Because it was a perfectly legal A Cat when I got it

Well said Mikee!

The "I want" is a good enough reason argument will never work, same principle could be applied to explosives, claymore mines, RPG, chemical weapons etc. Work on the "I need" argument, pest control,sporting etc.

Originally Posted by Savage1

The "I want" is a good enough reason argument will never work, same principle could be applied to explosives, claymore mines, RPG, chemical weapons etc. Work on the "I need" argument, pest control,sporting etc.

Can we apply it to the subsidized bar a tucker at the buzzy house? The overweight polis don't need the grog, nor do a lot of them need to eat so much; they could exist on bread and water, everyone could. We don't need people to write fiction, nor make movies, nor music. But without choices the world would be an awfully dull place.

No one 'needs' alcohol at all and it sure as shit causes a thousand times more deaths, social and economic harm than semi auto guns do, it's literally poison, Ban alcohol.

Originally Posted by gimp

No one 'needs' alcohol at all and it sure as shit causes a thousand times more deaths, social and economic harm than semi auto guns do, it's literally poison, Ban alcohol.

Or at least limit them to a 7ml capacity, require an empty to be handed in before a full one is issued, ensure that the owner has security such that the under aged cannot access it, require a valid reason for requesting it, ....