Thread: ar15 suitable match grade barrels 22inch or 26inch Ssteel.

Hi,

What alternatives are these in NZ to get a match grade heavy profile barrel for an AR15 from Kreiger, Shilen or Lilja? in a longer length than std?

New Zealand Repeating Arms Co Ltd - Criterion Barrel Blank, Barrels

Originally Posted by dogmatix

New Zealand Repeating Arms Co Ltd - Criterion Barrel Blank, Barrels

Thanks but it looks like a lot of machineing would be need to make it AR15, but I will ask.

Originally Posted by steven

Thanks but it looks like a lot of machineing would be need to make it AR15, but I will ask.

http://rifleshooter.com/2014/05/buil...-from-a-blank/

Originally Posted by Tommy

Building (machining) an AR-15/M16 M4 barrel from a blank | Rifleshooter.com

Hi, yeah I know its very possible but the idea is to keep costs contained a bit if I can. I have actually asked for 2 quotes for a US made blank (Shilen or Lilja) work. As I want such a long barrel I may have no option.

Nothing wrong with the complete Stag upper.

Stag Arms AR15 6H Upper - MSSA Stocks And Accesories - Gun Parts - Reloaders Supplies Ltd

Originally Posted by dogmatix

Nothing wrong with the complete Stag upper.

Stag Arms AR15 6H Upper - MSSA Stocks And Accesories - Gun Parts - Reloaders Supplies Ltd

I have all the bits except the barrel and foreend and really I'd rather spend on a known match grade quality SS barrel. Mind you my stag model 4 will do under 3/4moa which is very good for a service quality barrel.

Order this from Brownells then.

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts...%7cLength_1=24

You will have to pay the $250 US export fee though, so may as well get other parts to make it worthwhile.

Originally Posted by dogmatix

Order this from Brownells then.

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts...%7cLength_1=24

You will have to pay the $250 US export fee though, so may as well get other parts to make it worthwhile.

Good luck getting a permit if this is an A-cat part,
you will need one to export from the US, but cant get one for A-cat parts

Originally Posted by Glycerine

Good luck getting a permit if this is an A-cat part,
you will need one to export from the US, but cant get one for A-cat parts

No you don't. You do not require an import permit for a barrel for an A Cat rifle, even an AR.

You also don't need an import permit for the US export permit. A signed letter attesting to the fact that an import permit is not required is acceptable by the US Government.

If you did want to get an import permit to import an AR upper and lower receiver for an A Cat AR build, you can apply and will receive an import permit. You could certainly add that to the order, to make the export permit more worthwhile.

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Originally Posted by Koshogi

No you don't. You do not require an import permit for a barrel for an A Cat rifle, even an AR.

You also don't need an import permit for the US export permit. A signed letter attesting to the fact that an import permit is not required is acceptable by the US Government.

I know you dont,
Have you had success with getting a signed letter? and brownells accepting it?

Originally Posted by Glycerine

Good luck getting a permit if this is an A-cat part,
you will need one to export from the US, but cant get one for A-cat parts

You are wrong. I have already imported AR parts from the USA including lowers so I have a US permit to do so. NZ permits off my AO for A cat is an easy ring up to make an appointment and then a 20min hike to the Police station for the paper work. The issue these days is a) the $250US charge on the order the US State department insists on and b) the exchange rate now sucks, 0.85 v 0.65 is a huge hit. However for about $2kNZD in parts it still is looking economic even paying the landing fees and GST due to the markup on parts.

Also if the Cat A part is $99.99USD or less, not ammo, not a lower, upper or barrel then no State Department fees are involved. So small items like firing pins that are $30NZ here are $6US, or a BCG at $80USD and worth = $180NZD to my door as they are $300NZD+ here so well worth it.

Have you tried Trueflite?

Originally Posted by dedubyah

Have you tried Trueflite?

No and I do not intend to.

Example, Last weekend we were fault finding a 308w FTR with a <1200 round count trueflight match grade barrel on it. The best we could do was get 5s with a not good vertical spread with an occasional V dropping to 4s. What we determined was that the barrel had to be cleaned every 12 rounds, ie between each 10 round shoot (2 sighters) ready for the next to keep the five+s up. The problem becomes when you do a 15round shoot ( 17 incl 2 sighters) as by this stage the barrel is clearly shooting off and costing points but you have a time limit to do shoot them all in. On top of that I was shooting the club's spare FTR with the same make of action earlier in the day but with a good Kreiger barrel on it and getting runs of Xs and Vs, while using a fixed mag dodgy nikko scope v a new vortex on his.

This is just one more incident with a match grade trueflight barrel in a string of unhappy stories that says to me no thanks I'll put my $800+ where people say they are happy as the risk of an issue seems lower to do so.

Originally Posted by steven

No and I do not intend to.

Example, Last weekend we were fault finding a 308w FTR with a <1200 round count trueflight match grade barrel on it. The best we could do was get 5s with a not good vertical spread with an occasional V dropping to 4s. What we determined was that the barrel had to be cleaned every 12 rounds, ie between each 10 round shoot (2 sighters) ready for the next to keep the five+s up. The problem becomes when you do a 15round shoot ( 17 incl 2 sighters) as by this stage the barrel is clearly shooting off and costing points but you have a time limit to do shoot them all in. On top of that I was shooting the club's spare FTR with the same make of action earlier in the day but with a good Kreiger barrel on it and getting runs of Xs and Vs, while using a fixed mag dodgy nikko scope v a new vortex on his.

This is just one more incident with a match grade trueflight barrel in a string of unhappy stories that says to me no thanks I'll put my $800+ where people say they are happy as the risk of an issue seems lower to do so.

Interesting story, but like most TF tales it is pretty pointless...

There are so many variables that could make a rifle shoot poorly - the shooter, stock, bedding, poor reloading etc, etc. I got a TF barrel from someone who called it a piece of crap (literally). Rechambered it, and went on to win several regional comps with it. Now I use a Lilja, and am getting a Shillen on my gong rifle. Each barrel shoots differently, cleans differently, and behaves differently in terms of cold clean bore shots and fouling....

So if anybody has shitty TF barrels they no longer want, send them this way