Thread: AR's - the usual suspects??

I would class NEA as middle of the road.

Originally Posted by tiroatedson

So CJA in terms of build quality the lower end of the spectrum..?


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They're a bit of an unknown bag. There's no info on the materials, manufacturing processes or quality control procedures (if any), but they do have chrome lined barrels and carriers which gives some indication that they didn't cut every corner like some of the low end US rifles have.

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Originally Posted by Banana

They're a bit of an unknown bag. There's no info on the materials, manufacturing processes or quality control procedures (if any), but they do have chrome lined barrels and carriers which gives some indication that they didn't cut every corner like some of the low end US rifles.

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Not a lot to inspire confidence then huh... thanks for the info..


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ive heard a couple of people that have them recon they shoot well truth be known half the ar shit out there is probably made in china and repackaged in the us

Originally Posted by Banana

They're a bit of an unknown bag. There's no info on the materials, manufacturing processes or quality control procedures (if any), but they do have chrome lined barrels and carriers which gives some indication that they didn't cut every corner like some of the low end US rifles have.

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Then again, some people consider the Norinco AKs to be superior to the Russian AKs.

O have had three CJAs, the 11.5” 16” and 20”.

They are good to go.

Finish is shit but they all shot well with 69smk and the Aussie outback loaded ammunition.

I ran my 11.5” very hard and would have put over 2k rounds through it without a drama.

Yes they are an $800 gun, but don’t expect them to be worse than the cheap American stuff (bar finish) as they are all made on Ex US tooling.

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Probably something to consider as well is to keep in mind the furniture on each rifle. If both are pretty similar but you dont like the stock on the cja then the $200 you saved might get eaten up pretty quick when you want to change it out. Same with hand guards. I cant comment on the quality of the recievers as I have never handled either.

Originally Posted by Pineapple

Probably something to consider as well is to keep in mind the furniture on each rifle. If both are pretty similar but you dont like the stock on the cja then the $200 you saved might get eaten up pretty quick when you want to change it out. Same with hand guards. I cant comment on the quality of the recievers as I have never handled either.

As much as I would like to I won’t be rushing of to purchase either of the mentioned ARs. It just so happened to be a AR each of two shops I frequent and wondered the relative merits of each.


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Originally Posted by tiroatedson

As much as I would like to I won’t be rushing of to purchase either of the mentioned ARs. It just so happened to be a AR each of two shops I frequent and wondered the relative merits of each.


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Ah right - well in that case .....No bloody idea

Originally Posted by Pineapple

Probably something to consider as well is to keep in mind the furniture on each rifle. If both are pretty similar but you dont like the stock on the cja then the $200 you saved might get eaten up pretty quick when you want to change it out. Same with hand guards. I cant comment on the quality of the recievers as I have never handled either.

good advice - parts will eat up price differences quickly.

Nzar15 does a parts kit with some other bits and pieces required to finish it. It's on the website. All good quality USA made bits. Need a barrel and some other stuff go complete it. Would probably run 1500 or so.

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I’m in a similar boat, decided to go slow and steady and doing a build, so far have decided to go for Aero Precision, I assume an aeroplane manufacturing company will have good tolerances.
From what I understand Aero also manufacture AR parts for other companies who then put their stamp on it, like striker for one.
AR building seems to be a bit like LEGO, building one is probably going to be more expensive than buying one outright except I can buy the bits I actually want as opposed to buying a premade then swapping out the bits I don’t want and buying the ones I do.
At least that’s the plan.
I think I can build a complete lower for about 700.
I suspect the upper will be closer to twice that, then there is going to be an optic, not super cheap all considered but I am hoping to have a good hunting rifle that will fire quick if then be and won’t break easy.

Originally Posted by Shelley

I’m in a similar boat, decided to go slow and steady and doing a build, so far have decided to go for Aero Precision, I assume an aeroplane manufacturing company will have good tolerances.
From what I understand Aero also manufacture AR parts for other companies who then put their stamp on it, like striker for one.
AR building seems to be a bit like LEGO, building one is probably going to be more expensive than buying one outright except I can buy the bits I actually want as opposed to buying a premade then swapping out the bits I don’t want and buying the ones I do.
At least that’s the plan.
I think I can build a complete lower for about 700.
I suspect the upper will be closer to twice that, then there is going to be an optic, not super cheap all considered but I am hoping to have a good hunting rifle that will fire quick if then be and won’t break easy.

That must be expensive bits. My lower cost me 550. That's everything like the stock, parts kit, receiver and buffer assembly.

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan

Ruger AR556 is a good rifle. While it may not have a free float rail, for an entry level rifle they do have quite the value. 1:8 twist 223 wylde. I bought one before the election cycle just because. It became a back up rifle.
Surprisingly with a 4-12 cheapo scope and 77gr hpbt it was shooting sub moa groups.
They feed everything we have here in the states. They're not a garbage rifle. Now a Smith and Wesson M&P on the other hand....

With the Ruger back up iron sight and front sight post shooting bench rest, expect 1.5-2 inch groups with 55gr M193 at 100 yards, 62gr M855 2 inch groups. 62gr armscor fmjbt will be right around 1 inch on a warm barrel. First 5 shots will be under 1 inch on a cold barrel. It really likes Sierra 69gr hpbt.

For a budget entry level AR they offer quite a value... the uppers fit super snug to the lowers. Can't say the same for the DPMS or Bushmaster. Plus the threaded delta ring is nifty should you want to install MOE hand guard or carbine length quad rail. Rugers customer service in the states at least, is second to none. The sight blade adjustment tool for elevation is included as well. It will work for all A2 style front sight posts as well as most aftermarket flip up sights.

They're good value for what you guys pay for them, but here they get touted as 'high end American made' with an $1800 price tag.

Originally Posted by FloridaMan

Wow! I think I paid, 780 ish, after tax and background check. Now they can be had for 495 on sale to as high as 650/700 if you get a Magpul MOE edition or custom colors.
The triggers aren't gritty like a Bushmaster or DPMS though.
$1,600 gets a Spikes Crusader with an R2 brake pinned and welded.
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They're good quality entry level. Not worth $1,800 though
Custom Aero builds can get that high if you go with a light weight bolt carrier coated in nickel boron/nickel Teflon custom barrels with nickel boron plated extensions rails triggers etc.

Do you guys have an excise tax or big ITAR tax to pay out there?

Mostly exclusive import agents and dishonest dealers that bend us over. You can do a custom Aero build for around $1800 here too, that's why the AR556 is a waste of time.



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