Thread: ATN night scopes opinions please

I shouldn't have read this thread, how much is the Pard 007? Can it be used as a handheld device until you clip it onto your scope?

now for those interested i'm going to give a very simple version of how NV works:

digital nv is basically a camera at the objective end, some electronics and a tv screen at the ocular end.
"tube nv" is completely different. imagine a normal scope but...behind the objective end is a plate that is charged up to a high negative voltage. at he ocular end a plate thats charged to a positive voltage then more lenses etc.
a small amount of light enters and makes electrons want to leave the front plate, they fly down to the ocular plate as its positively charged/ this plate then releases light towards the eye.
however there is a gain between light input to light output and very basically this is how it works.
ok, thats really simplified but just to give you all an idea

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

I highly recommend looking in to the Pard 008+ - Hands down they're way better than the ATN's. Better software/interface, user friendly, clear to look through, full HD recording, compact and not a giant submarine on your rifle, 1 shot zero yada yada.

Still waiting...

I own and have been using a PARD 008LRF and find it hard to fault, being able to change the 18650 batteries in a few seconds is great.
Still need to look through @Uplandstalker ATN 4K to compare the two but I’m very happy with it and the built in rangefinder and laser are very useful features.
The PARD units get very good reviews in the UK where a lot of people are using them and seem to be the best on the market for the money.
I think Steve (Uplandstalker) is selling an ATN or possibly two if anyone is after one.

I currently have 3 ATN NV scopes. One of each model.

I recent got a 4K Pro and it's certainly the better of the 3. The other two are X-Sight 2 HD and X-Sight HD - both 5-20x. Both of these are for sale if anyone is looked. The X-Sight 2 is on TradeMe at the moment of $1050 and the older one can go for $550. These both have the orginally supplied IR Lamps. BUt would recommend upgrading these to some better. Have take a range of picture the other night at home, all with the same IR Lamp. Some pictures below:

X-Sight at 50m and 300m



X-Sight 2 at about 50m and 350m



As mentioned, the battery life on the earlier ATN was a bit shit, but that's becase they run off 4x AA. So depends on the quality of what you put in it. Unto 2 hours with Lithium. But I run a external USB power pack in a stock pack with mine. The 4K is magic for battery life!!!

These Fallow were about 350m with the X-sight 2.

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Originally Posted by vulcannz

I shouldn't have read this thread, how much is the Pard 007? Can it be used as a handheld device until you clip it onto your scope?

They are $999 and yep can use as handheld
Also if you have more than one adaptor you can attached quickly to say a deer rifle from your rim fire

They are in stock - I’ll take some video with the 007 soon - my scopes have illumination controls that are in the way

I notice the comment about "Illuminators ... THAT animals CANNOT see". Does this mean the built in illuminator is partially visible?

Originally Posted by vulcannz

I notice the comment about "Illuminators ... THAT animals CANNOT see". Does this mean the built in illuminator is partially visible?

850nm which is what it comes with and want most IR torches are create that red glow that we can see at the torch - 850 can be seen by animals its towards the end of their visible spectrum - they may not react though, rabbits don't seem to care (commercial hunters are using the 008) - deer may; or they may just ignore it (don't flash it around) or as in one clients case the look straight him to be shot between the eyes
The UK uses a heap of Night Vision with 850 - but a lot of that is Rabbits, Rats and Foxes

905 that I've tested on pigs can't be seen during my tests, including one at 60m with the laser focused on its head didn't - until the 308 pill smacked into it
940 certainly can't be seen - tried that on farm deer

Depends on the animals too - also lower power levels, don't flash it around (this is any IR torch, not just the pard)

well ive bitten the bullet and a 007 is on its way.weighed up pros and cons and being able to shift it between bang sticks was the decider. now a little boy waits

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thanks for all the input guys

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Where does one buy one of these Pard's? After reading this thread I'm very interested.

Originally Posted by Pook

Where does one buy one of these Pard's? After reading this thread I'm very interested.

owloptics.nz we bring them in

Several people here have them already

Originally Posted by Pook

Where does one buy one of these Pard's? After reading this thread I'm very interested.

https://owloptics.nz/product-categor...l-rifle-scope/

Originally Posted by sig4x4

dammit guys . now im on a new track and cant decide between nv007 or 008

You find yourself up the Kapiti Coast much? If so, pop in and have a look through my pard nv008.