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Thread: Big Sevens... Which one for the 195 Berger.....?

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    Call this a dumb question if you will but why did you select the barrel you did as opposed to a Locally made Trueflite?

    Some very interesting reading indeed as I'm researching my next project along similar lines.

    Enlightening is a understatement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter View Post
    Call this a dumb question if you will but why did you select the barrel you did as opposed to a Locally made Trueflite?

    Some very interesting reading indeed as I'm researching my next project along similar lines.

    Enlightening is a understatement!
    Because the 7mm barrel he selected will shoot good.

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    I have had 4 trueflite barrels.
    Only one shot well. Very well in fact.
    Have one Bartlein...to say I got what I paid for would be an understatement.
    Will only buy Bartlein or maybe one of KGs carbon ones from now on.
    Have also had MAB, Hart, Shilen, Krieger, vulcan (nz) and precision.
    All shot well but the Bartlein has been my favorite.
    Easy to clean and looking thru a scope you wouldn't think it has fired nearly 500rnds

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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    I have had 4 trueflite barrels.
    Only one shot well. Very well in fact.
    Have one Bartlein...to say I got what I paid for would be an understatement.
    Will only by Bartlein or maybe one of KGs carbon ones from now on.

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    You're not the first person I've heard say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWH View Post
    You're not the first person I've heard say that.

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    I never dealt with them directly but when we complained about the performance we were told to shoot a couple hundred rounds thru it to then see what it does. Wtf?
    Then we hear they had issues with 6.5-7mm barrels but would not replace mine.

    Every good custom barrel I have had, has shot a generic starting load straight away.
    No running in bullshit, they just shot.

    Never run in a barrel in my life and I have had a few. I have lapped a couple due to a bit of coppering but that's about it.

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    Hmmm interesting.

    It's the first I've heard about them in relation to quality in a bad way.

    Anyway interesting to see different people's experiences :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter View Post
    Hmmm interesting.

    It's the first I've heard about them in relation to quality in a bad way.

    Anyway interesting to see different people's experiences :-)
    Bare in mind that I was dealt a bad hand by them 4 or 5 years ago.
    They have likely been fine since then and don't want to rubbish them. Was just my experience and to be fair because of that, I doubt I will never buy another barrel off them.

    The TF barrel I had that shot well was really good in every aspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    I never dealt with them directly but when we complained about the performance we were told to shoot a couple hundred rounds thru it to then see what it does. Wtf?
    Then we hear they had issues with 6.5-7mm barrels but would not replace mine.

    Every good custom barrel I have had, has shot a generic starting load straight away.
    No running in bullshit, they just shot.

    Never run in a barrel in my life and I have had a few. I have lapped a couple due to a bit of coppering but that's about it.

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    The extra cost of a cut barrel is less than the cost of a couple of hundred rounds....its a easy decision in my opinion

    You end up using that many cleaning products on the cheap barrel as well so take that into consideration

    Then after the barrel wont shoot the maker blames the cleaning products and how you have cleaned it saying thats why it won't shoot and so it has no warranty

    Spend an extra few hundred at the start and take chance out of the equation
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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post

    Easy to clean and looking thru a scope you wouldn't think it has fired nearly 500rnds

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    What calibre @R93 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echo View Post
    What calibre @R93 ?
    6.5

    It reads like you are also very familiar with my experience
    If I can't get a rifle to shoot I always get a few other competent people to shoot said rifle for me.
    Some of the feedback we received was pretty insulting and probably would be for a beginner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter View Post
    Call this a dumb question if you will but why did you select the barrel you did as opposed to a Locally made Trueflite?

    Some very interesting reading indeed as I'm researching my next project along similar lines.

    Enlightening is a understatement!

    Been there done that been burned and grant is a tosser
    particular rifle shot better and faster with the standard barrel then the truflight and cleaning was a bitch even after 300 rounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    Bare in mind that I was dealt a bad hand by them 4 or 5 years ago.
    They have likely been fine since then and don't want to rubbish them. Was just my experience and to be fair because of that, I doubt I will never buy another barrel off them.

    The TF barrel I had that shot well was really good in every aspect.

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    Mine too was about that time and was 7mm barrel.
    Wont have another one especially how I was spoken too
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    Trueflite have done 4 barrels for now over 4-5 years, 2 in 7mm, 1 in 6.5 and one in 30 cal. All have been very accurate from get go, and I've broken the barrel in per Truflite instructions. Just done a 284 for me and about to start on break in & load dev. Always had great service and advice from Grant. Fingers crossed this 5th one is a shooter as well. I would agree that copper build up & cleaning is a bit of a mission in some barrels in the first stages but comes right with good Cu solvent and a round or 2 of lapping. Have never tried imported high end barrels so can't make any comparisons. Every gunsmith can turn out the odd dud bbl, but I'd expect the smith to stand by their work & put it right if it was not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chainsaw View Post
    Trueflite have done 4 barrels for now over 4-5 years, 2 in 7mm, 1 in 6.5 and one in 30 cal. All have been very accurate from get go, and I've broken the barrel in per Truflite instructions. Just done a 284 for me and about to start on break in & load dev. Always had great service and advice from Grant. Fingers crossed this 5th one is a shooter as well. I would agree that copper build up & cleaning is a bit of a mission in some barrels in the first stages but comes right with good Cu solvent and a round or 2 of lapping. Have never tried imported high end barrels so can't make any comparisons. Every gunsmith can turn out the odd dud bbl, but I'd expect the smith to stand by their work & put it right if it was not.
    So you bought 'premium' barrels which you subsequently had to do a round or two of lapping on. You don't see any problems with that?

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