Thread: Bore guide? Yes, no, deffinately?

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Originally Posted by Gibo

Ha ha all good mate im just sticking up for the cal I have, to be honest me old model 88 in .308 was awesome.
Im by far an expert, just dont see how its as bad as a lot perceive it to be. Anyway this is about wether i should be using a guide ha ha

I am with you Gibo. I have a couple of .270's and they make dead just like any other calibre.

All this talk about being namby pamby careful with cleaning your rifle has got me worried. I have never used a guide. I have never used solvent. My rifles must be sitting up in the safe talking about how neglectful I am.

Originally Posted by Rushy

All this talk about being namby pamby careful with cleaning your rifle has got me worried. I have never used a guide. I have never used solvent. My rifles must be sitting up in the safe talking about how neglectful I am.

I feel like you can get most of the carbon fouling out with a good brush (though I'm sure someone will disagree with me there) but the sort of copper fouling my barrel had when I first got it, I can't see that coming out without a solvent.

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Originally Posted by phillipgr

I feel like you can get most of the carbon fouling out with a good brush (though I'm sure someone will disagree with me there) but the sort of copper fouling my barrel had when I first got it, I can't see that coming out without a solvent.

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Bloody hell Phillip, there is another thing. Never used a brush. Oh woe is me how the hell do my rifles even work?

My old man has only ever had one new rifle(a rossi) all his other rifles have been second hand so broken in if you believe it it.
He only uses a pull threw and hoppes or clp .
No visible copper in any of his.
I use a ss one peace rod and oils or solvents as i feel like it.
Some rifles i have had copper the bore a bit but doesn't seem to affect accuracy.
All of em get at least one oiled patch if they go out weather fired or not.
Don't see the need for a guide if you have a quality rod and are carefull.

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- Increases your cleaning speed
- Faster to apply chemical to a patch, as most have a application window
- keep solvent out of the action which, if is a harsh solvent (sweets) I think is a benefit
- Rod alignment is much simpler.
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Originally Posted by Rushy

Bloody hell Phillip, there is another thing. Never used a brush. Oh woe is me how the hell do my rifles even work?

What do you use? Just a dry patch, nothing else?

When I first got my rifle and I knew nothing about anything, I was all worried about the copper fouling as the guy who had taken me to sight in my rifle said it was a real problem when breaking in a barrel and he had found it out the hard way when he first got a rifle. He couldn't get it to group any good until he started attacking it with the copper solvent. So I sorta neglected the carbon fouling. Anyway, my barrel must have had 35 rounds or so through it before I bought a brush and a bit of carbon solvent to take to it with. Without the brush, a dry patch would go through and stay clean. After the brush and without using the solvent, they were completely black with soot and it took me a fair few passes before they got any better. Then I tried it with the carbon solvent (and brush) and it produced a bit more fouling still on top of that. Dunno how much it affected the accuracy but it sure as hell looked bad.

I should mention that I had been using a boresnake throughout this time and it get that fouling the way the brush and solvent did.

I guess different barrels foul up slightly differently but this was a stainless off a Marlin XS7s.

Yep I pull dry cloth patches through until clean and then an oily one. That is it except for attacking all of the external with a toothbrush and then the residual oil on the cloth that has been through the barrel. I have never had a debate with a dead deer over whether it would have preferred I had cleaned the rifle differently.

Yeah i use them ,,,,machined my own ones up very similar to stoney creek ones ,,,and one piece parker hale coated rods ,,,i think with using a guide it keeps the solvent going where its spose to ,,,, and cuts any chance of damaging throat area

Originally Posted by Toby

Personally its cause my mates had a fair few deer walk away from his old one I've had deer walk away from one I sed so just dont like em. It was more about the bad shot placement but meh

mate if a deer walks away from a .270 its not the calibres fault, its definatly shot placement and/or projectile choice.

Which is what I said at the end

Originally Posted by Rushy

All this talk about being namby pamby careful with cleaning your rifle has got me worried. I have never used a guide. I have never used solvent. My rifles must be sitting up in the safe talking about how neglectful I am.

Don't you know that you need a guide to go hunting, and a guide to clean your rifle. You must be old school. Shame on you!!

Originally Posted by Lentil

You must be old school. Shame on you!!

Guilty as charged your honour.

Originally Posted by Rushy

Yep I pull dry cloth patches through until clean and then an oily one. That is it except for attacking all of the external with a toothbrush and then the residual oil on the cloth that has been through the barrel.

Do you find it difficult to slip the toothbrush back into the bathroom unnoticed?