Thread: Boyds Stocks

Originally Posted by horihunter

I sent them three emails, no reply. I saw a microfit for sale on trade me the other day so somebady managed to get one somehow

My first order from Richards took 4 weeks to get here and was a drop in fit but the next 2 haven't arrived after 3 years but I haven't been charged for them, they are fucken' unreliable, even if they bother to answer their emails they are quite vacant in their replies, it is hit and miss if they answer their phone and the 3 times I did get hold of them, they may as well have just told me to get fucked as their customer service is piss poor

Hmmmmmm.................................... any other suppliers you would recommend?

I only deal with Boyds now and usually buy the un-inletted stocks and inlet and finish them myself.

in man hours how much work is involved? what tools do you use?
Id be keen to give it a go

Originally Posted by Bill999

in man hours how much work is involved? what tools do you use?
Id be keen to give it a go

I have a Radar Carve Stock Duplicator, it takes me about 4 hours to setup and inlet a stock which is quite rough, I then attack it with a Dremmel and sandpaper.
There is possibly another 2-4 manhours to finish it. Given drying times for stock finishes etc. I usually allow about a week per stock, however people with better technique and patience than me would do it a lot quicker, I find I have to walk away at times and go shooting or do the Wifey " I need this done now" shit. I know of a guy in Oz who uses a Dremmel from start to finish and does an excellent job, a few chisels and typical wood working tools are probably all that is needed for someone with the skills ( which I don't have). PM me your email address and I will send you some photos of the ones I have done and the cockups I have made

Heres my experiences with Boyds.

All I have to say is F**KIN WANKERS, GIMME THE DAMN STOCK.

Richard,

We are seeing what we can do, but as of now NZ rejected the stock and sent it back.



Thank you,

Cameorn



Cameron Shumake

Retail Sales Division

(605)996-5011 Ext. 107

xxx@boydsgunstocks.com


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From: Richard Palmer [mailto:xxx@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 4:39 PM
To: Cameron Shumake
Subject: Fw: International Shipping



Hi Cameron



Below is a response from NZ Customs service.

They advise there are no problems on the NZ end.

I understand that the US has some terrible things going on currently with regards to gun laws due to recent tragedies, and rules are currently vague.

AFAIK, this should still be OK for export under US law?



Can you suggest an NZ based importer for this stock, or reconsider shipping?

Regards,

Richard





From: Arms Officer

Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:26 AM

To: Richard Palmer

Cc: NICOL Rhett ; DALTON Adele

Subject: RE: International Shipping











Hi Rich, you are completely right as to this stock not requiring a permit to import into NZ.



I know of no restrictions or directives to hold these gun stocks for entry on permit into NZ whatsoever.



I examine Boyds gun stocks on a regular basis and as yet have not had to stop one for a NZ Police import permit. Once examined they are released to NZ Post for delivery to the importer.



As per the Arms Act 1983 the only stocks that may require a NZ Police import permit to enter New Zealand are (a) A folding or telescopic butt.



Cheers



Scott








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From: Richard Palmer [mailto:xsxx@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2013 10:32
To: Arms Officer
Subject: Fw: International Shipping



Good morning



I’ve attempted to order a gun stock in from the US, only to have the reply below.

The part concerned is per this link:

Boyds Gunstock Industries Inc., Firearms cross reference guide...



This is a wood composite stock, the only metal contained is the sling swivels.

The Arms Code does not consider this a firearm part, and there is no mention on the Customs website of a gun stock as being prohibited.

No “Permit to Procure” is required.



Please advise?

Thanks,

Richard Palmer





From: Cameron Shumake

Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:58 AM

To: xxx@hotmail.com

Subject: International Shipping



Richard,

The stock that you purchased from us had to be cancelled due to new laws from New Zealand’s customs.

We have credited back your credit card and are hoping that in the future we can do business with New Zealand customers.



Thank you for your interest,

Cameron



Cameron Shumake

Retail Sales Division

(605)996-5011 Ext. 107

xxx@boydsgunstocks.com



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Originally Posted by Steveh054

I have a Radar Carve Stock Duplicator, it takes me about 4 hours to setup and inlet a stock which is quite rough

Hmmmm, can we send you a stock + money and have a rough duplicate made?

for your time spent setting it up i dont think it would be very cost effective, 4 hours even at min wage then postage both ways then time spent duplicating and tool usage, would probably be just worth setting to with a router.
and its a bit of an ask from a complete stranger

How to get the stock into NZ

Like everyone else I two have had issues, even though have two stocks already

So got on the net and found a few reasonable exporters with little charge who will ship the Boyd stocks over and no the New Zealand customs and Police did not stop my new mauser walnut valued over $100

Also did all the paperwork to get an export permit, to get an email today saying


The Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC)

From DDTC Response Team

If the value of the stock is less than $100.00, Boyds can ship it to you under the 123.17(a) license exemption.

Stephen M. Geis
DDTC Response Team
Contractor, XL
NOTE: Information in this message generally discusses controls and information contained in the Arms Export Control Act and International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), both of which are authoritative on this matter. The Response Team fields basic process and status questions, and assists exporters in identifying how to get answers to more complex questions handled by the Directorate of Defense Trade Control's licensing and compliance offices. The Response Team's services are not a substitute or replacement for the advisory opinion, general correspondence, and commodity jurisdiction processes delineated in the ITAR, which should be used to obtain authoritative guidance on export control issues, and do not in any way relieve exporters from their responsibilities to comply fully with the law and regulations.

I also shoot lefthanded and have a right handed Tikka.
Boyds never returned my e-mail, so I contacted GRS in Norway and got a lefthanded stock inletted for my Tikka no problem at all.
Landed it was $1175 nz. Obviously more than Boyds, but hell with it, it's an awesome stock and I love it.

GRS-Adjustablehunting