Thread: Budget Plain Jane Bolt action 22 "Sleepers"

Originally Posted by mudgripz

Krico and Voere nice little 22s and usually accurate. The risk now is parts - springs, pins, magazines etc can be very very hard to source.

Are there any good German sites for their bits? I'll have a look at the American ones and see what I can find.

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Originally Posted by outlander

You're not wrong. The one I had, came without a mag, so I figured there was no real reason to keep it as any sort of classic, so I cut the barrel back inch by inch and filled the mag aperture with a piece of wood. Measured velocity and at 16" she was bloody spot on. Crowned the muzzle with a hand drill and it hit most things I aimed at. I fed it on a diet of $4 a box Ozzy stuff. Amazing rifles.

Do you have the 78 or the 17? I finally found someone who has after market mags for the 17 and I have mags for the 78. The 78 is still available new and is also sold as the Winchester wildcat 22. In fact Winchester did not even bother taking the Toz branding off, they simply added theirs to the other side. though the branding with the winchester name means they no longer fit the budget "plain jane " description. Still very good rifles.

What price are the 78s these days Tim - good little hunters esp with the set of 4 mags they had in past. The Toz I'd like to get my hands on is the 78-06? - the heavy barrel variant. Very sharp little shooter.

Originally Posted by timattalon

Do you have the 78 or the 17? I finally found someone who has after market mags for the 17 and I have mags for the 78. The 78 is still available new and is also sold as the Winchester wildcat 22. In fact Winchester did not even bother taking the Toz branding off, they simply added theirs to the other side. though the branding with the winchester name means they no longer fit the budget "plain jane " description. Still very good rifles.

Thanks for the info, but I gave the TOZ away 15 years ago to a cockie for dispatching sick stock. It went with the advice that it shot faster than any other 22 rifle. I can't find the exact figures anymore, but it was around 150fps quicker than the '06 Winchester.

Originally Posted by mudgripz

What price are the 78s these days Tim - good little hunters esp with the set of 4 mags they had in past. The Toz I'd like to get my hands on is the 78-06? - the heavy barrel variant. Very sharp little shooter.

$500 with the 4 mags but I am out at the moment. The 06 was a little dearer and he only got 6. I think he wants to bring more in but has not yet. They pop up on trade me from time to time. There was one recently for around $350-$400....but it was a semi auto. Still a dam good price though. New they are $599 for the semis and we do have a few of those left.

Are the semi auto similarly accurate or a bit less?

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Interesting info on the TOZ 78. Could you keep us informed when the 78-06 become available, thanks.

Originally Posted by kristopher

Interesting info on the TOZ 78. Could you keep us informed when the 78-06 become available, thanks.

@kristopher It unfortunately wont be for quite a while. Also while the 06 is marketed as a heavy barrel varmint version, there were a few differences.

The barrel is a little thicker than the standard rifle but not substantially like we would normally refer to a "heavy" barrel. It is after all a 22 so heat distortion is not a massive issue....
While the standard (04 and 01 ) models came with open sights, the 06 doesn't as it is presumed that you will want a scope so these open sights are left off at the factory.
It has an adjustable trigger (same as the 01 model that we had which was unthreaded)
It had a factory thread for a suppressor (Same as the 04 version with the standard non adjustable trigger)

At the end of the day it was simply a different variation. If you are inclined to get a Toz 78, keep and eye out on trade me as they do occasionally pop up. I still carry spare mags for the 78 and the 99 (semi auto). There was one at Vortex Marine / The Gunshack in Blenheim a year or so back. I figure they will have sold it by now but it was the last one i knew of so could be worth a try. Of all the Toz 78s I have sold over the years, only a very few have been resold via trade me so I can only presume they are being held onto by the original buyers,

Thanks for.

Hi Tim I bought two of the Toz ten round mags from your old shop pre quake and one doesn't feed the first five rounds, are you up and running again or have a "shop"? thanks Nick

I heard the JW 15 10 shot mag is a bit of a dog...does anybody have one ?

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

I heard the JW 15 10 shot mag is a bit of a dog...does anybody have one ?

Have ...not sure yet if it’s a older rifle thing or it’s a dog. Salesman that sold it to me thought they were the goods...jury is still out yet..


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Scored a mint BSA Supersport Five for $275, needs a good clean but is "all there". I can see why they are "rated", nice hand-filing stock, adjustable trigger (a pretty good one on first impression) and smooth action. Will post photos soon and report on performance in due course.

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

I heard the JW 15 10 shot mag is a bit of a dog...does anybody have one ?

The steel 9 shot buggers can be a problem. Synthetic 10 shot is the ducks balls. Never had a feeding problem with one of them. May sell for what I paid.

Plenty of the 5-shot mags won't feed well without modification either, just a lack of quality control in the factories I expect.