Thread: Is buying 69 firearms from GunCity in 18 months signs of an addiction ?

That's good to hear firsthand info. That's my opinion and I think it could work if backed across the board but I'm happy to hear others. Harsher penalties is always a good thing it just has to be reasonable for it to even have a chance to be heard.


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We should go back to the original arms act of 1983.

It would be interesting to know how he got caught? I agree there should be harsher penalties for crims who have/use guns.

Firearm registry has been a feature in South Africa for ever. All the criminals I ever accosted with rusty AK 47s', Norinco 9mm hand guns, Baby Brownings' and Homemades etc. never held a licence or could even spell register.
Registry doesn't work there and the illegal firearms probably out number the registered ones. The naughty guns over there are also really naughty as most have the option of Automatic and that's where the switch is left mostly.
We really don't need more unnecessary bureaucratic nonsense in God's Own. It's just fine the way it is, thank you very much.

use the illegal monies from his gun sales plus any recovered from the deficient doses of DNA(aka Customers)to rent his prison cell for 10yrs.let him go cold turkey from the meth shit.yes tis extreme but it might just make him realise 5mins of glory brings 10yrs of hell .also his socalled mates might think twice about being out of pocket supporting this scrote!

Originally Posted by kotuku

use the illegal monies from his gun sales plus any recovered from the deficient doses of DNA(aka Customers)to rent his prison cell for 10yrs.let him go cold turkey from the meth shit.yes tis extreme but it might just make him realise 5mins of glory brings 10yrs of hell .also his socalled mates might think twice about being out of pocket supporting this scrote!

Man after me own heart Kotuku.

I went into Hunting and Fishing a month ago and brought 3 firearms. I would have thought this would be quite common for shops like this, to see people buy a few firearms at once. H&F only record sales in a book on the counter so i doubt that excessive purchases would be noticed.

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Originally Posted by Mohawk660

Good on you. I agree - it's the wrong attitude. It needs to be backed across the board though which is always hard ebcuase not many like change.

I can't stress how easy it is to do this sort of thing online now - just as car rego, ownership and even the mechanic doing your WOF is all done online etc

If the dealer does that when you buy new or second hand from them, then the work is done for you - instead of writing in their book under the counter they just wack in a few details onto the system and bang it's done and with the internet now days it can be centralised very very easily. As for private sales....over the internet when the deal is taking place at the buyer/sellers home or go down to the post office like you do with car ownership but instead of the VIN you have a firearm serial number. The only thing that will stop it working is the anti brigade. I'm not for disarmament or anything rediculous like that but for shit sake look at what has just happened as the result - yes he got caught....after 69 firearms had passed through unnoticed! It didn't work and was removed in 82 because in my opinion the technology wasn't there - not saying it can't be done but it is really not that hard to set up and run these days.

Jord (and Mowhawk660) mate, I have had B and E endorsements since forever and these firearms ARE registered with police. I get randomly Visited and my security checked every year. If I had a dollar for every time their list of what I am supposed to have was incorrect then I would be a few bob ahead. I keep all my Permits to Procure an copies of the ones sent to me by people I have sold stuff too. I am only talking 10 or so firearms over this time. So if that can't get that right then a registry is doomed to fail. I also have a feeling if I hadn't kept copies of all the paperwork I might have been is a difficult spot. Unfortunate but true.

Sometimes Bad people do bad stuff and they should be caught and punished, end of story.

Originally Posted by mikee

Sometimes Bad people do bad stuff and they should be caught and punished, end of story.

Totally agree.

I also don't want the police having a shopping list of what I have. Remember when they literally gave the personal details of a shitload of trademe members to criminals? (The urewera terrorist deal). And remember when you could access also kinds of stuff from any old public terminal in WINZ? Government cybersecurity sucks

Gun City's sales people are probably on a monthly sales bonus scheme, anyway they caught the dickhead and I dare say he will go inside for a few years. The cops will watch him closely when he is released. Hope he gets his arse pounded inside.

That's a real shame mikee. Thanks for insight into those cats and way they have been handled.
I'm in no way saying these bastards shouldn't be caught and punished. I'm 110% for that. And they should be punished harshly. I think a register should be made at least for new purchases. Like our vehicle ownership register. Online and on time - that system works fine - as you say, our current firearms one does not. They are not the same in structure at all and neither was the one scrapped in 82. The Canadian one is a failure and I don't dispute that. A register/registry doesn't mean a government department needs to be set up nor does it mean checking any and every firearm yearly, it does however offer a starting point to get a picture at what we're dealing with in NZ and a way to at least begin tracking firearms so shit like this can be identified earlier than 69 guns down the track.


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He was caught, firearms crime is a non existent issue here, the system worked, looking for a registry is just trying to fuck yourself

Jord, I'll have to agree to disagree.

Originally Posted by mikee

Jord, I'll have to agree to disagree.

I respect that as do I your opinion.

I have a fairly personal tie to this issue and perhaps it's clouding my judgement - one thing we can agree on is this guy is a cock and I'm glad he's been caught.