Thread: Can I send my famley an 80% lower?

That silly shit won't fly here, an 80% lower is still obviously an AR Lower.

Convicted felons being able to buy 80% lowers and skip their background check in the US is fucked, needs to be clamped down on big time.

ITAR is based off ATF regulations.

Originally Posted by TheWuce

That silly shit won't fly here, an 80% lower is still obviously an AR Lower.

Convicted felons being able to buy 80% lowers and skip their background check in the US is fucked, needs to be clamped down on big time.

There are 400 - 600 million firearms in the United States. Unfortunately if there's a will there's a way.

Originally Posted by California

ITAR is based off ATF regulations.

yep so just anoying US rules that stop us giving that economy a boost

Originally Posted by res

yep so just anoying US rules that stop us giving that economy a boost

ITAR regulations dictate that information and material pertaining to defense and military related technologies (items listed on the U.S. Munitions List) may only be shared with U.S. Persons. I'm actually register with ITAR, they take 2,500 dollars per year from me and I never see them.

Originally Posted by res

yep so just anoying US rules that stop us giving that economy a boost

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/22/121.1

Originally Posted by California

ITAR regulations dictate that information and material pertaining to defense and military related technologies (items listed on the U.S. Munitions List) may only be shared with U.S. Persons. I'm actually register with ITAR, they take 2,500 dollars per year from me and I never see them.

I think you just repeted what I said back to me lol

Originally Posted by res

I think you just repeted what I said back to me lol

Almost. However, everyone feeds the military industrial complex. EVERYONE!

So is an 80% lower classified as “the action of a firearm”?


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Originally Posted by hunt_fish

So is an 80% lower classified as “the action of a firearm”?


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That is how both police and customs have been treating them in NZ

Originally Posted by res

That is how both police and customs have been treating them in NZ

Fair enough. Ok


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Originally Posted by California

ITAR regulations dictate that information and material pertaining to defense and military related technologies (items listed on the U.S. Munitions List) may only be shared with U.S. Persons. I'm actually register with ITAR, they take 2,500 dollars per year from me and I never see them.

Unfortunately it leaves out any element of common sense and just restricts everything Military related.
When a Blue Force Gear 2 point sling is restricted but a Magpul one is not, both being made from nylon webbing and plastic fittings, it gets a tad ridiculous.

Also I don't believe it is quite as simple as you make it out too be, as a lot of companies seem to be shit scared of ITAR regulations and are unwilling to send items that are even remotely tactical/military looking.