Thread: Change my mind...

Not super fussy about it being subsonic but haven't really dabbled before and would like to. In saying that definitely still leaning towards the x39 again (last one was a single shot Baikal)

The only thing that turns me off the Ruger is that they had it nailed in the first case and then added the terrible (IMO) big mag release etc. Yeah could modify it I guess.

I don't want "almost" flush. Hinged floor plate or no deal

man...you had a good rifle.....how many times do we look back and think...should never have sold it.......
some folks have reemed them to 303brit......that would be interesting indeed.

Yes Sir.

But it went to a good place (Toby Auction) and I didn't need it taking up the safe.

Hopefully the recipient enjoys it like I did.

its all about projectile choice and more importantly PLACEMENT.... the lehigh stuff has huge following but steep pricetag...dont know how much longer we will have stuff to buy reading thread on forum from states....

they both have their places I like my 300blk but that thing still hasnt had a supersonic round thru it yet,

the deciding factor if going Howa Mini is do you want a blued heavy barrel because thats the only way the howa mini come in 300blk

7.62x39 comes in the light weight and stainless barrel/action options

300blk then you have the option of subs. I used to load coated lead subs in mine for plinking and shooting rabbits. There is purposed designed expanding subsonic ammo available, although it's hornady so may not be here at the moment.

I have a Ruger American 300BLK (16" barrel, DPT Can), even with supers a lot of people have said how surprised they are at how quiet it is. Even against a 223 the 300BLK seems much quieter (with supers).

subsonic without suppressor is similar to 22lr high velocity load.....if not quieter depending on load.

7.62x39 on account of cheap ammo and 2 friends owning each calibre you have talked about and both killing alot of deer. With subs the one who did commercial animal work reckons passed 70, even with reloads, 30cal subs are pointless and would have gone 45/70 if he had known(has since sold his BLK). The one with the x39 has a single shot baikal with a red dot and he loves it, all CNI sika/hybrids ,and smashes good stags with ease as well as getting the cheapest possible ammo.

Have the Ruger American x39 and Love it (bolts a bit sticky but that's ok). Used to shoot a lot of subsonic x39 on Pigs and deer. Just pulled the projectile on Military ball ammo and replaced the powder with pistol powder then re seated the ball projectile. Bullet tumbles on impact and ones I found had exited a deer rib cage were always sideways. Were pretty effective.

7.62x39 is for commies!

The free world uses 300BLK!

Originally Posted by vulcannz

7.62x39 is for commies!

So will we get Govt assistance replace our gear with 7.62x39 rifles?

Originally Posted by Ben Waimata

So will we get Govt assistance replace our gear with 7.62x39 rifles?

Good point, if you buy 7.62x39 you support Jacinda!

Originally Posted by vulcannz

7.62x39 is for commies!

The free world uses 300BLK!

I had a magical device that turned commie oppression into freedom seeds.
Then a socialist made it illegal

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From my experience.

Howa mini almost always super accurate. Ruger a bit of a lottery.
Have seen several Ruger American plastic stocks move in heat
Howa plastic mag etc lets them down but cutting down to three shot mag makes it bearable
Have shot hundreds of big animals with x39 and it works well. Mostly with SSTs. Some dash and die at range beyond 150m but piled up within 50m. Lead tips better on big deer than SSTs but have killed a lot with SSTs. They just blow up quicker.
Not as good as a 308 though. But horses for courses. The only reason to own a x39 is to have it in a really light rifle. Ammo cost unless you want to use super cheap shitty stuff is not that great. Blast suppressed is a bit less than 308. Grendel is noticeably quieter.
Not sure Hornady training ammo is available any more
Know of four people now who have tried 300Blk with supers and given it the thumbs down on deer and now use a x39 and love it. Before the 'experts' and chart readers fire up, it is what it is and I know I know they look the same on paper
If you want to shoot subs the 300Blk is the way to go. Unless you are OK with cast bullets. The jacketed Lee Highs etc are really good though but pricey. Worth it IMO unless shooting lots of goats

Hope this helps.

Cheers