Thread: Consumer Guarantees Act - Rifles

Ruger 10/22 and 77/22 mags are slightly different. The 77/22 mag is really tight into the 10/22.

Originally Posted by Friwi

Ruger 10/22 and 77/22 mags are slightly different. The 77/22 mag is really tight into the 10/22.

Not in my experience they aren't. The difference is the bottom profile flat for the 77/22 and curved for the 10/22 I grew up shooting a 77/22 and interchanging the two. I think the fitment difference is he age of manufacture and factory. For reference the 10/22 mag is tighter in this rifle but protudes down.

I have not read this whole thread, however the store does have (one) opportunity to rectify the issue before you are entitled to a refund or replacement.
A serious fault would be a major issue, the gun blowing up or going full auto or doing something very dangerous etc. Failing to feed or eject a few rounds of specific types of ammo would not be deemed a "serious" fault.
If after the "fix", if you still have issues then you are entitled to a refund or replacement.

Originally Posted by ChrisW

I have not read this whole thread, however the store does have (one) opportunity to rectify the issue before you are entitled to a refund or replacement.
A serious fault would be a major issue, the gun blowing up or going full auto or doing something very dangerous etc. Failing to feed or eject a few rounds of specific types of ammo would not be deemed a "serious" fault.
If after the "fix", if you still have issues then you are entitled to a refund or replacement.

It has feeding issues with some ammo and ejection issues with most if not all. But yes il see how the fix goes inthink I was obviously disheartened having brought my first brand new rifle (not a cheap 22 either) and one of renowned reliability and have this. Anyway hopefully the fix works was really it is a manufacturer issue I was just surprised it would be off the a gunsmith most manufacturers issues I have dealt with have been met with replacement or refund and the dealer goes to the manufacturer. I guess its a bit hard to do so on something such as a rifle.

Originally Posted by Stocky

It has feeding issues with some ammo and ejection issues with most if not all. But yes il see how the fix goes inthink I was obviously disheartened having brought my first brand new rifle (not a cheap 22 either) and one of renowned reliability and have this. Anyway hopefully the fix works was really it is a manufacturer issue I was just surprised it would be off the a gunsmith most manufacturers issues I have dealt with have been met with replacement or refund and the dealer goes to the manufacturer. I guess its a bit hard to do so on something such as a rifle.

Similar with the car industry too, particularly back in the 70's and earlier, you would get a little niggle that the dealer would sort rather than give you a new car. I've had similar issues with firearms and as gundoc said easy to fix. So don't worry to much, you'll likely be very happy once it's sorted.

i have never had an issue with genuine ruger 10/22 mags though ruger 10/22's can be ammo fussy mainly with powerpoint or "trunkated pyramid" ammo such as remington yellowjacket. i have shot 1000's of rounds of cci both subsonic and high power.
however what i have found is that rifles marketed as webley and scott but made in the philipines are a direct copy of the action and magazine of the 10/22 but nowhere near the same tolerances as the ruger.

Originally Posted by gonetropo

i have never had an issue with genuine ruger 10/22 mags though ruger 10/22's can be ammo fussy mainly with powerpoint or "trunkated pyramid" ammo such as remington yellowjacket. i have shot 1000's of rounds of cci both subsonic and high power.
however what i have found is that rifles marketed as webley and scott but made in the philipines are a direct copy of the action and magazine of the 10/22 but nowhere near the same tolerances as the ruger.

I got rid of my 10/22 soley because of jambs and misfeeds. I think the newer made ones anren't up to the same standard. Had 2 mags for ity and one shat itself early into the piece.

Originally Posted by Steve123

I got rid of my 10/22 soley because of jambs and misfeeds. I think the newer made ones anren't up to the same standard. Had 2 mags for ity and one shat itself early into the piece.

i bought the father in law one of the newer polymer trigger group ones a few years back, they are a pain in the proverbial to do a "trigger job" on one but his seems to function perfectly.
unfortunately i had to sell my "ultimate 10/22" years back to raise funds for a nasty split up. (built by gundoc) it would do 1.75" groups at 100m with the right ammo.

Originally Posted by gonetropo

i bought the father in law one of the newer polymer trigger group ones a few years back, they are a pain in the proverbial to do a "trigger job" on one but his seems to function perfectly.
unfortunately i had to sell my "ultimate 10/22" years back to raise funds for a nasty split up. (built by gundoc) it would do 1.75" groups at 100m with the right ammo.

Got a Toz semi and its pretty good. The 10/22 a mate had was excellent but it was made in the late 80's- early 90's.
Not a fan of the new ones. Seems most American rifles need most parts upgraded these days to get them to work like any other out of the box

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Were did you buy it from a local sport shop or one of the two others that crop up on here quiet often

One of the two as I couldn't find one else where.

Further information

Gunsmith polished chamber and fitted new extractor as apparently that was the issue.

It now ejects fine but only when it even extracts. It's worse now as I need a knife to remove spent cases. Going back to store again tomorrow

Reject it

Have done so was refunded and proceeded to grab a CZ455 Stainless. It shoots better so far doing a half inch 5 shot at 50m and a bit over an inch at 100m. With just a 3-9x40 Burris.

Good to hear, sounds like both the Retailer (and behind them, probably the wholesaler) have followed good procedure and done the right thing, which is often not the case. There are plenty of issues brought to the forum's attention, some with more validity than others, but we don't often hear of good outcomes. I'd deal with such a retailer, let us know who it was . . . . (its a short list, lots of wholesalers and retailers that I wouldn't touch with a 40' barge pole)

Originally Posted by Tentman

I'd deal with such a retailer, let us know who it was . . . . (its a short list, lots of wholesalers and retailers that I wouldn't touch with a 40' barge pole)

Mmmmmm... I also need such a list.