Thread: Day/night scopes

I think maybe 50m as easier to get on paper when you cant bore-sight first?

More about the Sytong HT-70 5-20 night/day 'scope that 55Six leant me to trial under hunting conditions and to compare with the Arken Zulus I have. Ive given it a thorough wring out now under most conditions. It's in direct competition with the Arken Zulus and the price difference between the 2 will be about $200 (the Sytong being the cheaper). That price difference fairly reflects the difference between the 2 and probably makes the Sytong better value because it does everything almost as well as the Zulus and in a couple of areas is better.

The Zulus is better in day and evening. I would rate the Sytong at 90% of the Zulus in this area - still way good enough. At 100 yards with the Zulus bullet holes in a target are very sharp - with the Sytong they are less so but still distinct enough to use the freeze frame sighting in. Ive shot wallaby past 400 yards with the Zulus in some dodgy light but I think you would need better light with the Sytong. At night they are on par or a slight edge to the Sytong. I have viewed deer out to 457 yards in the IR at night and at 10 power they were shootable - over 10 power and you lose too much definition.

The Sytong has better and less fussy focussing than the Zulus and has a deeper field of view. Both of them are easy enough to learn to use and navigate around the buttons. Im not over impressed with the battery life on either - about 2.5hrs if you are ranging, using some IR and doing some vid recording. It's easy to stuff another battery in but they always seem to run out at a critical moment. So battery management is important.

The ballistics and range finder work just fine in both but the Sytong range finder is less fussy.

Here's a vid of a shot half an hour or so after normal shooting light with the Sytong. Night mode. No IR. Good moon. 178 yards (I shot the small one 'cos I had a way to carry it).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv7ChbAUsmE

Ive just shifted the Sytong from a .223 to my Kimber 257R. Have sighted it in. Recoil and eye relief was no prob. Using the freeze frame thing it took 2 shots to sight it in at 50 yards and another 2 to get it an inch high at 100yds. I will now be able to see how it goes on deer with its legs stretched a bit.

I know that Pard and Hik have some pretty good day/night scopes out now too. Ive never seen through them but I would think they will be pretty good. Twice the price of these 2 Ive got.

@Tahr of the two, which feels better ergonomically and or most compact when handling firearm in a hunting situation. Zulus or Sytong?

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Originally Posted by Mathias

@Tahr of the two, which feels better ergonomically and or most compact when handling firearm in a hunting situation. Zulus or Sytong?

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@Mathias The Zulus is more compact. Both are very small. In balance the Zulus is more user friendly. I think the Sytong has better build quality - a case in point being the thread on the battery cap. Roughly machined and you could cross thread it on the Zulus (but probably wouldn't), nicely machined and smooth on the Sytong.

Something that has surprised me is that they are rugged and can take the knocks - the Zulus has done a ton of work and been on a big wallaby trip and back. Have never touched the zero. I bashed the Sytong and thought it would be out - but nah. Damned sight better than my experience with Leupolds.

@Tahr have you considered running a separate ir? It's easy to clip on and detach from the units pic rail. I got a sytong one, and it was a total eyeopener, doubled battery life, 150 m more definition range wise. It's on a pard 008 non rangefinder brought before ken really got his stuff going.

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

@Tahr have you considered running a separate ir? It's easy to clip on and detach from the units pic rail. I got a sytong one, and it was a total eyeopener, doubled battery life, 150 m more definition range wise. It's on a pard 008 non rangefinder brought before ken really got his stuff going.

No I haven't. I like the convenience of it all in one package and one set of buttons. I can see the advantage re battery life though. Might look at that for the next wallaby go-round.

I do like the XM06-50,XM03-50.Maybe next spring.

@Tentman Here's some footage from last night. 315 yards. Sytong HT-70

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMMyI-PdJ1E

Wow, excellent shooting! Optic obviously does it job perfectly well too.

Very good for NV.

that was pretty to watch...good shooting in daylight let alone after dark!!!

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

that was pretty to watch...good shooting in daylight let alone after dark!!!

You need one.

Originally Posted by SmokeyJason

You need one.

IF I had private land to hunt...maybe. without it I would be in trouble in no time at all.
a handheld thermal for spotting is still way outside my budget..give it ten years and maybe the price will come down and expendable income will be there..meantime I just have keep on sneaking quietly with wind in face.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

IF I had private land to hunt...maybe. without it I would be in trouble in no time at all.
a handheld thermal for spotting is still way outside my budget..give it ten years and maybe the price will come down and expendable income will be there..meantime I just have keep on sneaking quietly with wind in face.

Don't forget the sun at your back as well, need all the advantages you can hunting old style.

315 yds, pitch black and the bugger was looking straight at ya.