Thread: Dead wood on the tree of firearms evolution

The Remington J lock.

Originally Posted by gundoc

Owners who don't know how to use a screwdriver!

Isnt that what the school girl asked the chauffeur when he was changing a flat tyre and could get the hub cap off? Do you want a Screw Driver?

Originally Posted by gundoc

Owners who don't know how to use a screwdriver!

Never met this species. I thought they were fictional , like unicorns.

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

Never met this species. I thought they were fictional , like unicorns.

unicorns are real aren't they?

"Which again is great as I used to find the only thing that would reliably fit the slot was a coin, and I never had one when out shooting." @Beetroot I used to put a 5 cent coin under one of the turrets on my 22 for just that occurrence. Still there

Originally Posted by csmiffy

unicorns are real aren't they?

Yes, but I find they disappear when I don't take my medication.

Originally Posted by csmiffy

unicorns are real aren't they?

"Which again is great as I used to find the only thing that would reliably fit the slot was a coin, and I never had one when out shooting." @Beetroot I used to put a 5 cent coin under one of the turrets on my 22 for just that occurrence. Still there

YES ! The curved screw slot. NONE of your 20 screwdrivers can fit & turn it without gouging. And its dimensioned to take a nickel or shilling or the rim of a .303 Brit. Only Din Collings himself could ever have turned it cleanly.

Originally Posted by Bagheera

YES ! The curved screw slot. NONE of your 20 screwdrivers can fit & turn it without gouging. And its dimensioned to take a nickel or shilling or the rim of a .303 Brit. Only Din Collings himself could ever have turned it cleanly.

Fixed with a hacksaw blade of appropriate gauge and an impact(!) driver and 4-pound hammer.

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

Never met this species. I thought they were fictional , like unicorns.

You'll see plenty of sign around action screws and scopemount areas.

Originally Posted by keneff

You'll see plenty of sign around action screws and scopemount areas.

Good point. I now have to admit that I have met this species, in fact I see one everyday when I look in the mirror.

My AR 15 riser block has a chip out of one large slot screw where I goofed.

Belted magnums are dodgy if you don’t have a clue

Yes yes
The key bolt and the electric rifle !

Slotted screws are disappearing in general, which is great as they are dog shit.

You don't seem to see too many turrets that are adjustable with a coin anymore, most scopes are finger adjustable.
Which again is great as I used to find the only thing that would reliably fit the slot was a coim, and I never had one when out shooting.

Nothing wrong with slotted screws, you just need the correctly sized screwdriver (like any other screw) and use it properly - they are not idiot proof. I'm going ProudKiwi (Gawd help me if I actually end up like the cynical old shit he is) here but if you can't select and make good use of a slotted screwdriver appropriate to the task, do you think you should be handling weapons??

Originally Posted by Tentman

Nothing wrong with slotted screws, you just need the correctly sized screwdriver (like any other screw) and use it properly - they are not idiot proof. I'm going ProudKiwi (Gawd help me if I actually end up like the cynical old shit he is) here but if you can't select and make good use of a slotted screwdriver appropriate to the task, do you think you should be handling weapons??

The problem is that you need 20 different sized screw drivers in different widths and thicknesses to suit what ever odd ball size slot the manufacturer decided to make. My dads JW15 has 3 screws all with different sized slots that hold the trigger guard on. I'd much rather need a single torx or allen driver than need 3 flat head screw drivers.

Usually the problem comes when someone doesn't have the correct sized screw driver, so "makes do" and buggers them up.

Non firearm related but old flat head wood screws are shit house as a flat head bit in a cordless drill doesn't like to stay in the slot, especially after years of people" making do" with what screw driver they had.
When several better options exist there is no good reason to keep using them.

Cutts Compensator with adjustable choke.