Thread: Does everyone here love the current NZ firearms laws?

If people are concerned their emotions will get in the way of putting in a submission, try just using bulletpoints. It won't read like a novel, but it WILL be a submission, and it will include all your observations and arguments.

Originally Posted by STC

Have not gotten around to it yet due to job/family matters, but do absolutely intend to.

Keep in mind that the firearms "community", especially in here has plenty of bad actors that just pretend to care about more sensible laws.

Or they are too comfortable in their victim role...

You havn't got around to it, but apparently everyone else hasn't done enough for your liking. I'm not sure you'd be allowed into any firearms "community"'.

Come on guys - bickering and bitching isnt going to help anyone make their own submission.

Is anyone prepared to post the basic body of their submission or even just pieces , to show others what can be done ?

We all need to get on board and help each other , not do the tall poppy thing.

I have my doubts upon whether or not anything will arise from my submission but i have made one

Originally Posted by John Duxbury

You havn't got around to it, but apparently everyone else hasn't done enough for your liking. I'm not sure you'd be allowed into any firearms "community"'.

actually i am about 2/3 done with it...

what about you?

Originally Posted by Russian 22.

I have my doubts upon whether or not anything will arise from my submission but i have made one

i agree, but at least we tried.

i stead of bickering and pretending an nzda membership is enough.

can't be bothered with submissions for anything (not just firearms) they ether don't read them or they cherry pick the ones that suit the particular argument
at the end of the day the govt will do what they want regardless of what you have wasted 20mins of your life to write up

Please everyone submit.

I have been working through the act and a detailed list of issues to write a good submission. Yes some policy wonk at Justice might totally ignore it but man we've gotta try.

I'll post my bullet point things I think should be changed or equally importantly NOT changed.

Well, completed my submission after about three interrupted hours this afternoon.
Read the Colfo guide first which I didn't fine overly helpful but hoping it will help others.
Couldn't address or answer every question as some I found a bit over my pay grade but tried putting logical info into questions I fely a little qualified to tackle.
Anyway, I'm glad I got to at least offer my 2c worth and hope in the end we can all se some benefit in the final law.

I think COLFO missed plenty of things that need addressed. Particularly what the MOJ discussion document calls the "product definitions".

As soon as you could flick that up haha. Got a few little jobs to clear then will look at this one.

Originally Posted by gimp

I think COLFO missed plenty of things that need addressed. Particularly what the MOJ discussion document calls the "product definitions".

I have based my submission mostly in the colfo document (which is lacking in some instances)

more than happy to hold off to incorporate your points into my submission (with changed wording) if you are happy to share

Originally Posted by rambo-6mmrem

can't be bothered with submissions for anything (not just firearms) they ether don't read them or they cherry pick the ones that suit the particular argument
at the end of the day the govt will do what they want regardless of what you have wasted 20mins of your life to write up

they certainly dont read and ignore submissions that have not been made.

I completed my submission. If you don't at least try,they will continue as they are. Sure the dog and pony show the last government took on a road trip was a farce,but at least this time things appear more reasonable.

NZDA are emailing submission pointers to members this week.